juicy

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“While the University will not divest from Israel,” it offered to create an expedited timeline for a review of new proposals from students by the school's Advisory Committee for Socially Responsible Investing, which explores divestment, Shafik said.

“The University also offered to publish a process for students to access a list of Columbia’s direct investment holdings, and to increase the frequency of updates to that list of holdings,” she added.

lol. They didn't even reveal their investments. They said, "Look over here, we made some new bureaucratic games for you to play." Only true bureaucrat perverts would think that would appease anyone.

I'm genuinely stumped then. Do you mind explaining?

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Neither "From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free." nor anything close to that occurs anywhere in the document you linked.

Oh! I think you accidently removed the parent comment instead. I can still see the offending comment here:

Meanwhile, my app shows this:

I was actually one of the people who reported that comment.

The train is barreling down a track with five people tied to the rails. It crushes them. You hear the screams and watch the blood spurt and then dribble. Ahead are another group of five people on the rails. You can let the train continue on its murderous path, throw a switch that will shift it onto a different track but cause another train to run over the people, or you can go call 911 because the people are going to be crushed no matter what.

Interesting. Thanks for sharing!

ACAB

You can't actually believe that. Biden refused to publically criticize Israel until February, four months into the genocide, when he said Israel's actions were "over the top." And even then, the flow of weapons has yet to even slow. Even Ronald Reagan withheld weapons from Israel when they got out of line.

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If Trump is elected Palestine is leveled.

Fixed that for you

You could equally argue I'm helping Biden by not voting for Trump. So tell me Professor Logic, what does it mean if the same reasoning can be used to argue that I'm helping both Biden and Trump?

First two links are exclusively about rifles, not the bombs and shells being used on families in Gaza. The third article says:

When asked about the allegation, several U.S. officials said there was no change in U.S. policy or any deliberate delay in delivering previously promised aid or weapons sales to Israel.

Your last two articles say that three months ago the administration was considering thinking about exploring the possibility of debating the merits of slowing weapon deliveries.

It's not pragmatic to twiddle your thumbs while your weapons are used to commit atrocities. It's evil.

Fair enough, but I think we're borderline splitting hairs.

delusion is a belief held with strong conviction despite superior evidence to the contrary.

The word can be used in mental health contexts, but it's in common usage as a synonym for "profoundly mistaken." I can see the argument for calling it ableist, but it's tenuous.

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You're out to sea if you think it would be any better under Trump. It would be the same. Palestine is fucked, but we don't have to let Dems get away with genocide with zero consequences.

Tainted by the blood of Palestinian children

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I'd be happy to hear more.

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You're right, it would've been the same with Trump. I would never vote for him either.

Vote genocide, no matter who!

Plus, both Obama and Clinton would have done the same shit with Israel. Both are party line progressives and we see where the party line has been.

That's just not true. Biden is the most rabidly pro-Israel president we've ever had -- since before Reagan for sure.

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You could be describing my Midwest American city. Democrats here have no competition, so they get away with all kinds of corruption. There have been attempts to disrupt the local party machine from within, but they've been unsuccessful.

We're going around in circles. I made my point.

Otherwise, don't let a fantasy get in the way of the only obvious option if you like democracy genocide.

The most salient fact for me is that they are both against genocide, so no, I don't know. I might flip a coin. I could even vote for De La Cruz. I guess I'm just a riddle, wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma!

I care about 15,000 issues. Each one an innocent child murdered with American bombs.

The only democracy in the Middle East, everyone

Sure, they're nice until they're on the job, having a bad day, decide you're a "bad guy" due to whatever biases or circumstances they find you in, get angry or frightened and snap and kill you as we've seen over and over and over again.

ACAB is an earned generalization from day-to-day experience, actual statistics, and media coverage. We're long past "make nice." Police need to go. So fuck their feelings.

Well, you can't go around letting people just say whatever they want. Badspeak is called badspeak for a reason.

Hahaha! Oh, yeah those stick-it notes saying "Do better, friend" on the bombs Biden is shipping to Netanyahu really pack a punch. Biden is violating US law by continuing to send Israel weapons. And a recently leaked State Department memo proves he knows it.

My point is that it's racist to focus on the plight of white people in a country where by any objective statistical standard white people are far better off than the rest of the country and are just a tiny minority. It's like stepping over people bleeding out to put a bandaid on scraped knee.

The white people in South Africa should have paid huge reparations. They got off easy, and now want us to feel sorry for them because they are experiencing some of the strife and violence that is the direct result of apartheid. They are like a physically abusive parent seeking sympathy when their adult children are openly hostile and struggling with mental health from the childhood abuse.

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Fuck me for caring, right? Nothing to see here. Move along.

Vote genocide, no matter who!

Ooh, I love thought experiments! You're in an auditorium. There are three stages. On one stage, a man is guilotining one child every ten minutes. He cries into his handkerchief. On another stage, a man is gleefully guilotining one child every ten minutes and periodically kicking a dog. Both men get loud applause from different sides of the auditorium. On the third stage, almost completely unnoticed by the crowd, Jill Stein juggles bowling pins while tossing candy to kids. A vote will be taken to see who stays on stage.

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"The sextortion involved at least 12,600 victims—primarily boys—and led to at least 20 suicides."

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Chicago's finest:

In all, the city spent $295 million to resolve lawsuits alleging more than 1,000 Chicago police officers committed a wide range of misconduct — including false arrest and excessive force — in 2019, 2020, 2021 and 2022, according to WTTW News’ analysis. Through the end of November, the city spent $62.3 million in 2023 to resolve police misconduct lawsuits.

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What's truly wild is the misleading media coverage of Glazer's speach. Variety initially quoted him as saying, "Right now, we stand here as men who refute their Jewishness." That reads totally different than what he actually said: "Right now, we stand here as men who refute their Jewishness and the Holocaust being hijacked by an occupation which has led to conflict for so many innocent people." He's refuting the hijacking of their Jewishness, not their Jewishness itself.

Then NBC News covered his remarks in an article titled "Jonathan Glazer condemns violence in Gaza and Israel in Oscars speech" and subtitled "In his remarks, the director said in part: 'Whether the victims of October the 7th in Israel or the ongoing attack in Gaza, all the victims of this dehumanization, how do we resist?'" They thus give the impression that Glazer's comments were a condemnation of both sides of the conflict, not the targeted criticism of Israel's occupation that it was.

But don't sanction the country doing a genocide

Tangentially, have you read about the 1904 Summer Olympics Men's Marathon?:

Frederick Lorz crossed the finish line first and was hailed as the winner, but he was disqualified after it was discovered that he had hitched a ride in a car for 11 miles (17.7 km) after having supposedly dropped out of the race. The actual winner, Thomas Hicks, was near collapse and hallucinating when he crossed the finish line, a side effect of being administered brandy, raw eggs, and strychnine by his trainers. The fourth-place finisher, Andarín Carvajal, took a nap during the race after eating spoiled apples.

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Israel has an app where they post links to social media posts discussing Israel for app users to go astroturf. They take their propaganda very seriously. They have a word for propaganda targeting foreigners: "hasbara." https://mepc.org/speeches/hasbara-and-control-narrative-element-strategy

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Would you like them to take it to the free speach zone behind the mall?

Yeah, which ones? IndieWire, The Guardian, The Columbus Dispatch, Al Jazeera, Truthout? Those are the only sites I've posted from. Be specific. And when you say middle east, do you mean all of the Middle East or just the murderous ethno-colonial government in Israel?