he is still qualified to tell them how the equipment works...
are we gatekeeping tank school now?
It's a meme, not an in-depth examination of international tanking standards. It's just poking fun at the fact that Ukraine is one of the few countries in the world which has current tank-to-tank combat experience, but they go to the US for advanced training courses.
Imagine abrams have different behaviours and buttons to press to what these chaps are used to. Different weight class, handling, aiming, reloading, maintenance. You don't need tank v tank combat experience to educate people who don't necessarily speak English fluently which button does what, where it is and when/how to use tank gadgets so it goes into muscle memory because i donno about you, but if someone starts shooting me out of a tank i am very likely to piss myself. Its better they learn muscle memory of where what is in those tanks to be effective and hopefully soon we can see these chaps rolling into Crimea.
Or you know, you can just enjoy the meme.
I think you're lost, this is actually NonCredibleDefense.
The M1 Abrams is a third-generation American ๐บ๐ธ main ๐ฟ battle ๐ฅ tank ๐ designed ๐ by Chrysler Defense ๐ก (now General ๐ Dynamics ๐ฏ Land ๐ฌ Systems).[9] Conceived ๐ for modern ๐ธ armored ๐๐ ground ๐ซ warfare ๐ซ and now one โ of the heaviest ๐ฏ tanks โฝ in service ๐ฃ at nearly ๐ฃ 68 short ๐ธ tons ๐ (almost ๐ธ 62 ๐ metric ๐๐ฆ tons ๐), it introduced ๐๐ several ๐ฏ innovative ๐ฉ features ๐งฌ, including ๐ a multifuel turbine โ engine ๐, sophisticated ๐๐๐ Chobham composite armor ๐ช, a computer ๐ป๐พ fire ๐ฅ control ๐ฎ system โ, separate โ ammunition storage ๐ฌ in a blow-out compartment, and NBC protection ๐ for crew ๐ฌ safety ๐ท๐ป๐. Initial ๐ฐ models ๐ง of the M1 were armed ๐ช๐ซ with a licensed-produced 105 ๐ mm ๐ฅด๐คค Royal ๐ Ordnance L7 gun ๐ซ, while later ๐ variants โ feature ๐ง a licensed Rheinmetall 120 โค๐ป mm ๐ฅ L/44. The M1 Abrams was developed ๐ from the failure โ of the MBT-70 project ๐ท to replace ๐ฐ๐ the obsolescent M60 Patton. There are three 3๏ธโฃ main ๐ฟ operational Abrams versions โน, the M1, M1A1, and M1A2, with each new ๐ iteration โคต seeing ๐ improvements โฌ in armament ๐ฆ๐ช๐, protection ๐ก, and electronics ๐บ. Efforts ๐ฉ๐ง to develop ๐ฉโ๐ป an M1A3 version ๐ผ were first ๐ฅ publicly ๐๐๐ฆ disclosed in 2009.[10][needs update ๐จ] Extensive ๐ improvements ๐ have been implemented ๐ง to the latest โฐ๐โฑ M1A2C and D (formerly designated M1A2 System โ Enhancement ๐ Package ๐ฆ version ๐ผ 3 โญโน๐ or SEPv3 and M1A2 SEPv4, respectively ๐๐คค) versions โน such as improved โ composite armor ๐ช, better ๐ optics, digital ๐ง๐ฟ systems ๐บ and ammunition.[11] The Abrams was due ๐ข to be replaced ๐ท by the Future ๐ Combat ๐ Systems ๐บ XM1202 but ๐ due ๐ to its cancellation โ, the U.S ๐จ. military ๐จ๐ผโโ๏ธ has opted to continue โฉ maintaining ๐๐๐ถ๐ฝ and operating ๐ค the M1 series ๐ฌ for the foreseeable future ๐ by upgrading ๐ฏ๐ฑ๐ฒ with improved ๐ธ optics, armor ๐ช and firepower.
The M1 Abrams entered ๐ service ๐ in 1980 and currently โ serves ๐ as the main ๐ ฑ battle โ tank ๐ of the United ๐บ๐ธ States ๐ Army ๐ and Marine ๐ Corps ๐ฎ. The export ๐ธ version ๐ผ is used ๐ถ by the armies ๐ of Egypt ๐ช๐ฌ, Kuwait ๐ฐ๐ผ, Saudi ๐ฆ๐ฎ Arabia ๐ฆ๐บ, Australia ๐ฆ๐บ, and Iraq ๐ฎ๐ถ. The Abrams was first ๐ used ๐ถ in combat ๐ซ in the Persian ๐ฏ Gulf War โ๐ฃ๐ซ and has seen ๐ combat ๐ซ in both the War โ in Afghanistan ๐ท๐บ๐๐ฆ๐ซ and Iraq ๐ฎ๐ถ War ๐โ under ๐ U.S ๐จ. service ๐ฃ, while Iraqi Abrams tanks โฝ have seen ๐ action ๐ญ in the war ๐ฅโ against ๐ซ ISIL and have seen ๐ use ๐๐๐ by Saudi ๐ธ๐ฆ Arabia ๐ธ๐ฆ during the Yemeni Civil ๐ War ๐ซ.
I too would rather piss on the right buttons than piss myself
In fairness the question posed is how do they "fight" not "how does the equipment work".
he is still qualified to tell them how the equipment works...
are we gatekeeping tank school now?
It's a meme, not an in-depth examination of international tanking standards. It's just poking fun at the fact that Ukraine is one of the few countries in the world which has current tank-to-tank combat experience, but they go to the US for advanced training courses.
Imagine abrams have different behaviours and buttons to press to what these chaps are used to. Different weight class, handling, aiming, reloading, maintenance. You don't need tank v tank combat experience to educate people who don't necessarily speak English fluently which button does what, where it is and when/how to use tank gadgets so it goes into muscle memory because i donno about you, but if someone starts shooting me out of a tank i am very likely to piss myself. Its better they learn muscle memory of where what is in those tanks to be effective and hopefully soon we can see these chaps rolling into Crimea.
Or you know, you can just enjoy the meme.
I think you're lost, this is actually NonCredibleDefense.
The M1 Abrams is a third-generation American ๐บ๐ธ main ๐ฟ battle ๐ฅ tank ๐ designed ๐ by Chrysler Defense ๐ก (now General ๐ Dynamics ๐ฏ Land ๐ฌ Systems).[9] Conceived ๐ for modern ๐ธ armored ๐๐ ground ๐ซ warfare ๐ซ and now one โ of the heaviest ๐ฏ tanks โฝ in service ๐ฃ at nearly ๐ฃ 68 short ๐ธ tons ๐ (almost ๐ธ 62 ๐ metric ๐๐ฆ tons ๐), it introduced ๐๐ several ๐ฏ innovative ๐ฉ features ๐งฌ, including ๐ a multifuel turbine โ engine ๐, sophisticated ๐๐๐ Chobham composite armor ๐ช, a computer ๐ป๐พ fire ๐ฅ control ๐ฎ system โ, separate โ ammunition storage ๐ฌ in a blow-out compartment, and NBC protection ๐ for crew ๐ฌ safety ๐ท๐ป๐. Initial ๐ฐ models ๐ง of the M1 were armed ๐ช๐ซ with a licensed-produced 105 ๐ mm ๐ฅด๐คค Royal ๐ Ordnance L7 gun ๐ซ, while later ๐ variants โ feature ๐ง a licensed Rheinmetall 120 โค๐ป mm ๐ฅ L/44. The M1 Abrams was developed ๐ from the failure โ of the MBT-70 project ๐ท to replace ๐ฐ๐ the obsolescent M60 Patton. There are three 3๏ธโฃ main ๐ฟ operational Abrams versions โน, the M1, M1A1, and M1A2, with each new ๐ iteration โคต seeing ๐ improvements โฌ in armament ๐ฆ๐ช๐, protection ๐ก, and electronics ๐บ. Efforts ๐ฉ๐ง to develop ๐ฉโ๐ป an M1A3 version ๐ผ were first ๐ฅ publicly ๐๐๐ฆ disclosed in 2009.[10][needs update ๐จ] Extensive ๐ improvements ๐ have been implemented ๐ง to the latest โฐ๐โฑ M1A2C and D (formerly designated M1A2 System โ Enhancement ๐ Package ๐ฆ version ๐ผ 3 โญโน๐ or SEPv3 and M1A2 SEPv4, respectively ๐๐คค) versions โน such as improved โ composite armor ๐ช, better ๐ optics, digital ๐ง๐ฟ systems ๐บ and ammunition.[11] The Abrams was due ๐ข to be replaced ๐ท by the Future ๐ Combat ๐ Systems ๐บ XM1202 but ๐ due ๐ to its cancellation โ, the U.S ๐จ. military ๐จ๐ผโโ๏ธ has opted to continue โฉ maintaining ๐๐๐ถ๐ฝ and operating ๐ค the M1 series ๐ฌ for the foreseeable future ๐ by upgrading ๐ฏ๐ฑ๐ฒ with improved ๐ธ optics, armor ๐ช and firepower.
The M1 Abrams entered ๐ service ๐ in 1980 and currently โ serves ๐ as the main ๐ ฑ battle โ tank ๐ of the United ๐บ๐ธ States ๐ Army ๐ and Marine ๐ Corps ๐ฎ. The export ๐ธ version ๐ผ is used ๐ถ by the armies ๐ of Egypt ๐ช๐ฌ, Kuwait ๐ฐ๐ผ, Saudi ๐ฆ๐ฎ Arabia ๐ฆ๐บ, Australia ๐ฆ๐บ, and Iraq ๐ฎ๐ถ. The Abrams was first ๐ used ๐ถ in combat ๐ซ in the Persian ๐ฏ Gulf War โ๐ฃ๐ซ and has seen ๐ combat ๐ซ in both the War โ in Afghanistan ๐ท๐บ๐๐ฆ๐ซ and Iraq ๐ฎ๐ถ War ๐โ under ๐ U.S ๐จ. service ๐ฃ, while Iraqi Abrams tanks โฝ have seen ๐ action ๐ญ in the war ๐ฅโ against ๐ซ ISIL and have seen ๐ use ๐๐๐ by Saudi ๐ธ๐ฆ Arabia ๐ธ๐ฆ during the Yemeni Civil ๐ War ๐ซ.
I too would rather piss on the right buttons than piss myself
In fairness the question posed is how do they "fight" not "how does the equipment work".