I love how you guys got a new insult of “dronies” on top of “liberals” for anyone not a tankie too!
What's the matter dronie, can't stand your own bullshit?
So you get to smear us as tankies, but when we reciprocate it's not fair! 😭
Why the fuck should we let an ally asking for help from being genocided just die and empower Russia even more? How is this “peace” of wiping someone off the map a good idea to you?
What the fuck do you think peace talks are? Peace talks don't mean we just let Russia steamroll the country, they mean we negotiate an end to the war.
You just want unconditional surrender from Russia, no negotiations and no concessions and no conditions, and they're pretty obviously not going to do that. At best you're just going to create a new DMZ like the one between the Koreas. At worst this shit escalates into another World War.
You just want unconditional surrender from Russia, no negotiations and no concessions and no conditions
Your phrasing here is extremely telling. Russia surrendering???? They are the aggressor and they had no right to invade and genocide. You want an unconditional SURRENDER from Ukraine. I want Russia to stop INVADING and GO HOME.
Okay so you're just lying now. I don't want Ukraine to surrender, I want a peace deal. That means both sides negotiate to find a compromise. Russia's invasion was unjustified and strategically pretty stupid, but that doesn't mean we just wage an eternal forever war until Russia collapses into civil war or everyone in Ukraine is dead.
Is all peace just surrender to you?
no, we kick Russia's ass until they leave Ukraine. if that means putin loses face and gets deposed, well that's an internal Russian matter
The goal isn't to make Russia leave Ukraine, it's to keep them embroiled in conflict as long as possible to weaken Russia. That's why the amount of aid will never actually be enough for Ukraine to win; just enough to never lose.
What's the matter dronie, can't stand your own bullshit?
So you get to smear us as tankies, but when we reciprocate it's not fair! 😭
What the fuck do you think peace talks are? Peace talks don't mean we just let Russia steamroll the country, they mean we negotiate an end to the war.
You just want unconditional surrender from Russia, no negotiations and no concessions and no conditions, and they're pretty obviously not going to do that. At best you're just going to create a new DMZ like the one between the Koreas. At worst this shit escalates into another World War.
Your phrasing here is extremely telling. Russia surrendering???? They are the aggressor and they had no right to invade and genocide. You want an unconditional SURRENDER from Ukraine. I want Russia to stop INVADING and GO HOME.
Okay so you're just lying now. I don't want Ukraine to surrender, I want a peace deal. That means both sides negotiate to find a compromise. Russia's invasion was unjustified and strategically pretty stupid, but that doesn't mean we just wage an eternal forever war until Russia collapses into civil war or everyone in Ukraine is dead.
Is all peace just surrender to you?
no, we kick Russia's ass until they leave Ukraine. if that means putin loses face and gets deposed, well that's an internal Russian matter
The goal isn't to make Russia leave Ukraine, it's to keep them embroiled in conflict as long as possible to weaken Russia. That's why the amount of aid will never actually be enough for Ukraine to win; just enough to never lose.