Civilian deaths are indefensible, whether done by Hamas or Israel | Rajan Menon

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Civilian deaths are indefensible, whether done by Hamas or Israel | Rajan Menon
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The fact that this is only an “opinion” is a fucking travesty

The travesty is how many people are unable to say this out loud. Everyone is stuck in their black & white tribalism, making them blind for their own sides atrocities.
You can be pro Palestine and still condemn Hamas. You can be critical of the Israeli government and still grief for all the innocent Hamas victims. It's not actually that hard to be a decent human being.

The travesty is how many people are unable to say this out loud. Everyone is stuck in their black & white tribalism, making them blind for their own sides atrocities.

Personally I don't want to say it out loud because I'm just so mentally exhausted from the screaming. I know (like know, not just feel) that if I say this out loud in a more public space then somebody is gonna scream at me over it. And I just don't want that anymore. I feel in this instance it's better to just keep silent because I just hate it when people get so uppity at me over this kind of thing.

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Indeed. Every moral person should understand this without being told.

The fact that people don’t understand the differences in style and purpose between fact-based reporting and opinion pieces is a travesty. There is no way this can be anything other than an opinion piece because of its topic and tone. Whether you agree or disagree or find its position to be self-evident is irrelevant. It simply does not meet the standards of traditional fact-based reporting. Which people today don’t seem to understand the value of.

Obama changed the military's criteria for civilian deaths so he could pretend his numbers were lower.

I don't know that I'd call it an opinion. Civilian deaths are an eventuality we have no choice but to accept, especially here in the US, where we're making war in six, seven, or eight countries at once and it's normal.

Sounds like you don't know what the word opinion means. Hint: literally any statement based on morality is an opinion.

That's an opinion, though. Not a fact. It's actually just one theory in ethics.

The definition of what an opinion is is not an opinion.

No, but this is an opinion:

literally any statement based on morality is an opinion.

No, it's not. Facts are statements about what is. Statements about what should be—which is what moral statements are—are always opinions.

I can't fucking believe I'm arguing with people who literally don't know what the word opinion means. It's not rocket science.

Perhaps you should read about more about the different theories surrounding whether morality is always objective "as a fact".

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