An Alabama woman was imprisoned for ‘endangering’ her fetus. She gave birth in a jail shower

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An Alabama woman was imprisoned for ‘endangering’ her fetus. She gave birth in a jail shower
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Actually I vote Democrat exclusively because I'm aware that the GOP are domestic terrorists acting on behalf of Russian Homophobes, nice try.

See while I think just letting ANYONE get an abortion is morally wrong and that the procedure should only be done in extreme cases, like rape, ectopic pregnancy, incest, major deformity, and the like, etc....

I also realize Republicans are the opposite extreme in that they want NO ABORTIONS AT ALL and aren't big on the concept of gender equality.

So I vote Democrat despite the Abortion issue, as I realize neither party has a satisfactory answer to it, but the Democrat Answer causes less problems.

It's called "Don't let Perfect be the enemy of Good"

Do you think people (in particular, yourself) should be forced by state violence to donate their organs to someone who needs it to survive? Especially when the forced donation process involves significant risk to your own life and health (though i do not think that aspect particularly important for my own reasoning, personally ^.^).

Because advocating for """reasonable""" restrictions on abortion is advocating for forcing someone to act as, essentially, a breeding pod, forced to donate their body and organs.

I think Organ Donation should be an Opt Out rather than an Opt In.

Also Organ Donation isn't done till after the person is dead, so your argument makes no sense.

Anyway, that aside, if you are in a position to save another person or prevent their death, and either don't or even just expedite what was already going to happen... You're a killer in my eyes.

How many kidneys have you donated?

3

So you haven't donated any, you're trying to evade the question.

Anyway, that aside, if you are in a position to save another person or prevent their death, and either don't or even just expedite what was already going to happen... You're a killer in my eyes

That means, by your own logic, you're a killer.

I told you, I donated three

Whatever, I really don't care about thr opinions of some hypocrite killer.

I'm not a hypocrite, I am merely not suicidal. If I were to donate my organs while I was still alive, I would be putting myself into unnecessary risk. Meaning I cannot blindly give them away, if I were to give them away at all, I would have to do so specifically because someone needed them and came to me for help with the understanding that if I refused they would die.

If you were paying attention, you would know that I do not advocate for a total ban on abortion, if bringing the human child to term is a non-negligible threat to the owner of the womb than an abortion isn't just fine, it should be encouraged by a medical profession.

However if that is not the case, then an abortion would child murder.

Kinda like how if someone dying of kidney failure asked for my kidneys and I said no, I'm basically telling them to drop dead.

My logic isn't inconsistent, you merely belong to a vocal minority of people who value self freedom over the lives of others. A vocal minority that was quite loud on reddit but seems to have migrated to Lemmy.

The kind of nut who would compare licenses to drive to licenses to use a toaster

Kinda like how if someone dying of kidney failure asked for my kidneys and I said no, I'm basically telling them to drop dead.

Currently, 17 people die each day on the organ transplant list. I'm representing one of them, and coming directly and specifically to you. Will you donate a kidney?

I am not a lawyer, however I have no reason to believe that this is a sincere request. Instead I believe this is an attempt to propose a Preposterous question without evidence, in order to use my answer against me. And for that reason I refuse to answer it.

Yes, saying that anyone who doesn't donate an organ to someone else is a killer is prepostorous, I agree.

Claiming to be rational and twisting someone else's words around, do not go hand in hand.

So you think a corpse should have more morphological autonomy than a living person?

People can also organ donate while alive lol ;p