not to be a downer but throwing him in jail would probably do nothing but ensure his victory
not like it matters to the vast majority of people on earth but you yanks seem very attached to your pretend democracy
I think your 2nd paragraph there has merit but I had already downvoted you for your first. Once he has a conviction, the GOP will immediately dump him. Conservative news will be all about whichever other contenders will be in the top spot.
To paraphrase Stephen Miller, the democrats just don’t get it. This is no longer about law, but about power.
They’re about to grab the brass ring and so few people understand.
Once he has a conviction, the GOP will immediately dump him.
How can you be sure? Trump did lots of things that would normally by disqualifying but somehow the GOP still supports him.
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Good question. I'm not sure. The current talking point is that he's fine because there's no conviction. I suppose they could move the goal posts, but hopefully enough of them respect the law enough to not cause trouble.
but hopefully enough of them respect the law enough to not cause trouble.
You're gonna be disappointed.
with convictions.hes barred from running in several states, so it's just a non starter.
He's not barred until someone declares him barred. Who's to say that the GOP state leadership won't let him on the ballot anyway because fuck you that's why?
GOP isn't a lawmaking body. There are rules in various states about who can be on a ballot.
Yes, but who is tasked with enforcing those rules? Who, specifically, makes the call saying Trump can or cannot be on a ballot? In red states, the answer to those questions is "The Republican Party."
He only has to get knocked off in like, one state, for him to be non-viable.
No, he actually has to get knocked off in several
Colorado, for example, will not matter because they've voted blue for the last 2 decades. Michigan will matter because it's a swing state where Trump needs to win. But even if Michigan does kick him off the ballot, he could still easily get enough from the remainder of the swing states. He'd need at least 2-3 more swing states to not go his way before he'd become non-viable.
The point is that if he's convicted of a Federal crime, he by default can not be on the ballot in many states. Its big enough that it wont matter. Depending on how it all goes down, there is a very good chance he won't be on the ballot in GA. If that happens, he's also off the ballot in Louisiana.
You keep missing the point. Him being removed from the ballot is not automatic. Whether or not it should be is irrelevant. If the SoS in GA wants to keep Trump on the ballot, he's going to be able to do that until a judge shuts him down, and maybe not even then. Same with LA or any other red state. It would be far from the first time the GOP just ignored the law because fuck you that's why.
Look at what we've seen with gerrymandered maps in the past. We've seen multiple occasions where the courts tell states to redraw the maps, and they just stall out and defy the orders until it's too late, then they say "it's too late to redraw the maps now; we're gonna just have to use the old maps I guess. Golly gee darn, I wonder how that happened?". And what did they get in return? GOP control of the House.
Who's to say they won't do the same thing here? "Sorry, but the ballots were already being printed while we went through the appeal process. It's too late to print all new ballots now, so I guess Trump's name is just gonna have to stay.".
I don’t know that the GOP would dump him. I think they’ll do whatever their base does and if that means doubling down on a convict then there we go…
not to be a downer but throwing him in jail would probably do nothing but ensure his victory
not like it matters to the vast majority of people on earth but you yanks seem very attached to your pretend democracy
I think your 2nd paragraph there has merit but I had already downvoted you for your first. Once he has a conviction, the GOP will immediately dump him. Conservative news will be all about whichever other contenders will be in the top spot.
To paraphrase Stephen Miller, the democrats just don’t get it. This is no longer about law, but about power.
They’re about to grab the brass ring and so few people understand.
Add a double line break to separate your thoughts from the quote.
Good question. I'm not sure. The current talking point is that he's fine because there's no conviction. I suppose they could move the goal posts, but hopefully enough of them respect the law enough to not cause trouble.
You're gonna be disappointed.
with convictions.hes barred from running in several states, so it's just a non starter.
He's not barred until someone declares him barred. Who's to say that the GOP state leadership won't let him on the ballot anyway because fuck you that's why?
GOP isn't a lawmaking body. There are rules in various states about who can be on a ballot.
Yes, but who is tasked with enforcing those rules? Who, specifically, makes the call saying Trump can or cannot be on a ballot? In red states, the answer to those questions is "The Republican Party."
He only has to get knocked off in like, one state, for him to be non-viable.
No, he actually has to get knocked off in several
Colorado, for example, will not matter because they've voted blue for the last 2 decades. Michigan will matter because it's a swing state where Trump needs to win. But even if Michigan does kick him off the ballot, he could still easily get enough from the remainder of the swing states. He'd need at least 2-3 more swing states to not go his way before he'd become non-viable.
The point is that if he's convicted of a Federal crime, he by default can not be on the ballot in many states. Its big enough that it wont matter. Depending on how it all goes down, there is a very good chance he won't be on the ballot in GA. If that happens, he's also off the ballot in Louisiana.
You keep missing the point. Him being removed from the ballot is not automatic. Whether or not it should be is irrelevant. If the SoS in GA wants to keep Trump on the ballot, he's going to be able to do that until a judge shuts him down, and maybe not even then. Same with LA or any other red state. It would be far from the first time the GOP just ignored the law because fuck you that's why.
Look at what we've seen with gerrymandered maps in the past. We've seen multiple occasions where the courts tell states to redraw the maps, and they just stall out and defy the orders until it's too late, then they say "it's too late to redraw the maps now; we're gonna just have to use the old maps I guess. Golly gee darn, I wonder how that happened?". And what did they get in return? GOP control of the House.
Who's to say they won't do the same thing here? "Sorry, but the ballots were already being printed while we went through the appeal process. It's too late to print all new ballots now, so I guess Trump's name is just gonna have to stay.".
I don’t know that the GOP would dump him. I think they’ll do whatever their base does and if that means doubling down on a convict then there we go…