Doom and gloom was the ultimate goal — and now it is working: Trump wins with voter apathy

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Trump's swing state plan: Don't turn out the vote
salon.com

At this point in election season, the political press starts making forays into the wilds of so-called Real America to try to find out what the voters are thinking. It can be an interesting exercise in the hands of journalists who have a feel for more than the usual "breakfast crowd at the diner" type of stories and find some insight that's helpful to understand the cross-currents that shape the electorate in any particular cycle. All too often, however, it's just a series of cliches and conventional wisdom, unfortunately.

We see tons of coverage of Iowa and New Hampshire, for obvious reasons. But when it comes to picking the brains of swing voters reporters always seem to head up to Wisconsin, the quintessential swing state. Back in 2020, just before the election, the New York Times sent a couple of reporters there to take the temperature of voters in the Badger State that former president Donald Trump barely won in 2016 to see what undecided swing voters were thinking four years later.

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I’m not apathetic. I will actively advocate for not voting for Biden or any other genocider. Not only did he refuse to ask for a ceasefire to save lives, he is sending the bombs and the billions of dollars that are used to wipe out the Palestinian population.

Yes he will lose. And he only has himself to blame for that.

Congratulations for being honest enough to admit you're part of the problem. Russia is pleased with your work.

Greatest hits for a liberal

  • Only way to solve the problem is by voting for the pseudo fascist.
  • Oh that didn’t work? It’s because things are slowly improving you have to be patient.
  • Oh things are getting worse? Umm. Russia.

Yes, you've already proven yourself. We know who you are now.

And how would you prevent fascism at the next election? Or have you simply given up?

Do you understand that we have a FPTP voting system and the ramifications of that?

ok so your vote is for fascism then, got it

I’m writing in fascism

I’m not apathetic. I will actively advocate for not voting for Biden or any other genocider.

Those were your words, genius. What do you suppose fascists will do?

Great job. I'm sure the fascists will be so proud of you for clutching those pearls.

If that’s your actual opinion about ethnic cleansing then you deserve trump and worse

For somebody who's so concerned about genocide, shouldn't you be concerned about the guy who's giving speeches about "rooting out" all the "vermin" in America?

What do you think the extermination of political opponents is going to look like?

These people decided not to vote Biden long ago, and always use the "Latest and greatest hits" to declare that they DEFINITELY aren't voting for Biden NOW and encourage everyone else to do the same.

Morons, all of them. But worse than that, disingenuous morons.

Back under the bridge buddy.

They're totally obvious. Am I supposed to believe that someone actually concerned about the genocide would advocate against the option which results in the fewest casualties? Because of all the realistic choices, voting for Biden will lead to the fewest.

Either they're a paid troll, or they're an idealist who is so misguided, they would allow an antithetical outcome for the sake of ideological purity.

Yeah cool story bro.

Either you're only using Palestinians as a cudgel, or you are severely misguided. A lot more Palestinians would die under a Trump administration than are dying today. If you actually cared about them, you'd instantly vote for Biden, because it will save Palestinian lives.

Fact of the matter is, no matter what you vote, the genocide will continue. I want as few people to die as possible -- ideally 0 of course -- so I'm going to vote for Biden and keep Trump out at all costs.

Tell me, what makes you more of an accomplice to genocide? Voting for Biden, or not caring if someone worse for it takes power? Having to have a vote for Biden sit on your conscious, or letting even more Palestinians die than would otherwise?

... And the other guys idea of "foreign affairs" is trying to buy Greenland.

Trump is a goddamned moron, and thinking he'd have any solution to any of this outside of "drop bombs until it goes away", you need to turn off the FOX News and get some fresh air.