None of that has ever warranted an M rating unless it's graphically depicted.
Can you give an example of another game with unambiguous premeditated murder on the part of the main character, that isn't either in self-defense or as part of a war? I'm trying to think of any but I'm coming up short.
Skyrim, you have a whole questline being an assassin for a god of death.
In Oblivion you could only join them by murdering a random innocent person.
I intended that to be T and under games with premeditated murder by the player in them, but I realize looking back that I didn't say that so you are correct. They are, however, both M rated. Although, Oblivion was famously T rated before being rerated to M because of some PC mods with nudity in them. Even the console version was changed to M, which I remember thinking at the time was BS. So I'm going to call that a T rated game with murder in it.
I remember the official Bethesda word on that back then was "whatever, Oblivion should have been rated M to begin with anyway".
However, Morrowind has stayed ESRB T and has an assassin group you can join too. it's technically legal in-universe, but they're assassins nonetheless.
Final Fantasy series, along with a lot other JRPGs?
FF is typically self defense and/or war, but there are probably some murders in there somewhere I guess
FFVII has what is probably the most memed on graphic onscreen murder in the whole franchise. As graphic as you could get with those polygons anyway.
Interesting question honestly. Sims 4 (rated T) certainly allows you to kill off Sims, but you're an omnipotent being, it doesn't have Sim-on-Sim murder. I think this is true for a lot of simulation games where the player isn't a character in the world. Cult of the Lamb is obviously inspired by those games, but also makes the leap to you being represented by a character.
None of that has ever warranted an M rating unless it's graphically depicted.
Can you give an example of another game with unambiguous premeditated murder on the part of the main character, that isn't either in self-defense or as part of a war? I'm trying to think of any but I'm coming up short.
Skyrim, you have a whole questline being an assassin for a god of death.
In Oblivion you could only join them by murdering a random innocent person.
I intended that to be T and under games with premeditated murder by the player in them, but I realize looking back that I didn't say that so you are correct. They are, however, both M rated. Although, Oblivion was famously T rated before being rerated to M because of some PC mods with nudity in them. Even the console version was changed to M, which I remember thinking at the time was BS. So I'm going to call that a T rated game with murder in it.
I remember the official Bethesda word on that back then was "whatever, Oblivion should have been rated M to begin with anyway".
However, Morrowind has stayed ESRB T and has an assassin group you can join too. it's technically legal in-universe, but they're assassins nonetheless.
Final Fantasy series, along with a lot other JRPGs?
FF is typically self defense and/or war, but there are probably some murders in there somewhere I guess
FFVII has what is probably the most memed on graphic onscreen murder in the whole franchise. As graphic as you could get with those polygons anyway.
Interesting question honestly. Sims 4 (rated T) certainly allows you to kill off Sims, but you're an omnipotent being, it doesn't have Sim-on-Sim murder. I think this is true for a lot of simulation games where the player isn't a character in the world. Cult of the Lamb is obviously inspired by those games, but also makes the leap to you being represented by a character.