[NakeyJakey] Bethesda's Game Design Was Outdated a Decade Ago

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Bethesda's Game Design Was Outdated a Decade Ago
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So to be clear, you think you can demonstrate that Starfield is the "Grown Ups 2" of video games? This conversation isn't me arguing there's something wrong with you for disliking Starfield, but you trying to imply that starfield is a genuinely bad game in some objectively quantifiable way.

And… Being bigger than skyrim doesnt really matter when “”“bigger”“” means you pick one of 10 buildings at random to respawn in front of me, forever.

Specifically, Starfield is bigger than Skyrim with regards to hand-crafted content, leaving procedural content out entirely. There's more hand-crafted locations than Skyrim by square meters, and more non-Radiant quests in Starfield by a fairly large margin (apparently it's that Starfield has as many hand-crafted quests as Skyrim+Fallout4 combined).

So no, "bigger" does not mean picking one of 10 buildings at random to respawn. Those 10 buildings at random are yet another of those "added on top of the completed game that people are now complaining about" things like NG+.

Not only did I never say starfield was the grown ups 2 of anything, I literally just clarified for you that I didnt claim that. It was an example of the concept of "just because you like something, doesnt mean its good." I do not know how else to reword this for you.

If you cant grasp a very simple example, Im not sure how to continue talking with you about more nuanced topics without you completely misconstruing what I say.

I'm thinking you can't continue talking about any topics with me if it's getting incivil. I'm not looking for reddit 2.0. So I'll just agree to disagree.

Im not sure where this was uncivil, I just dont want to repeat myself 4 times per point