Proton's feature set is very limited and kind of all over the place depending on platform, and development is incredibly slow, especially for Linux, but I do believe they're committed to privacy and they do have a whole suite of products now under a single, very reasonably-priced subscription.
It's only slow for Linux because they can't find Linux devs. If you know any, tell them to apply.
I dont believe that for a second. It's slow because, like most things Linux, almost nobody used it.
However, it is undoubtedly the most private and secure desktop OS.
I use the web mail client and thunderbird client and it works fine. Protonvpn works fine in arch linux, there's gui and cli, I prefer cli. Drive isn't on linux yet but web client works wonderfully fast.
What part of Proton’s feature set is limited and compared to what other service? You can do a whole lot more with proton than with Gmail for example.
Couldn't forward emails until about a month ago.
Their drive app backs up only the computer it's on and other computers cant access that backup. It's like a sectioned off part. Or I can upload files that any of my devices can access.
Their calendar has some problems with compatibility of run into and it's things that the person on either side can't change. Not world ending but it's really annoying.
They literally just added the ability to automatically add holidays to the calendar. And of course I had set it up about a month prior so I manually entered everything.
The proton drive app for your phone doesn't automatically back up anything.
I'm not shitting on proton because I'm an active proton unlimited subscriber and I use a bunch of their services, but I also recognize the flaws and how it's not as seamless as Google yet, which I don't expect it to be.
I also wish they had some better Linux support in preaching to the choir with that.
Love their vpn and the netshield features. Email works great and I love knowing I can read an email and automatically have trackers blocked. Aliases are great but I use their simple login site free with my proton subscription too. So my point is I like them lots, but it's not a complete Google replacement yet.
Couldn’t forward emails until about a month ago.
wow, that in particular seems like a minimum viable product feature
You could forward emails manually, but you couldn't setup a rule to automatically forward emails based on a rule.
Fwiw, I'm in the same boat as the other poster. Love proton, but it's not as seamless as Google.
Yep sorry I wasn't specific and thank you for clarifying. Auto forward so like I want my girlfriend to receive all my Walmart+ emails which doesn't let you have accounts like Amazon. So I forward all emails. Had to keep my Gmail to just make it easy. I'm sure there's a more complicated setup but it's Walmart... I just need email to get to both of us about orders.
It's like this because it's secure, there's was good reason they didn't have this feature. But it's inconvenient and I'm not using Proton because I'm a secret agent, I just to want to pay for a product instead of being the product.
Their calendar, contacts and bridge don’t support CalDAV/CardDAV, so you can’t synchronise them anywhere.
The iOS app doesn’t synchronise contacts or calendars either. There’s a one way “upload to proton”, but not the most helpful.
The public holidays only include some countries (not mine).
Their VPN is terrible with 20% packet loss, despite sitting in the same data center as other VPN providers without that issue.
But, still not google, and their mail app is better on iOS than fastmail.
Oh ok I was just referring to the email part. You are right that their non-email offerings do leave a lot to be desired. I’ve found that downloading files from Proton Drive as small as 3GB is almost impossible, because their download rate is atrocious and on iOS if you don’t keep the screen active during the download it’ll just stop with no way to resume later.
I mean...that's a long list, my guy.
Gmail client, no, but I have my (work) Gmail connected to Shortwave, which honestly is a fucking Godsend for all the people who insist on continuing to use email. It just makes it so much easier to organize everything.
You can't do the same thing with Proton (for good reason) but there's no reason they can't incorporate those features.
Proton's feature set is very limited and kind of all over the place depending on platform, and development is incredibly slow, especially for Linux, but I do believe they're committed to privacy and they do have a whole suite of products now under a single, very reasonably-priced subscription.
It's only slow for Linux because they can't find Linux devs. If you know any, tell them to apply.
I dont believe that for a second. It's slow because, like most things Linux, almost nobody used it.
However, it is undoubtedly the most private and secure desktop OS.
I use the web mail client and thunderbird client and it works fine. Protonvpn works fine in arch linux, there's gui and cli, I prefer cli. Drive isn't on linux yet but web client works wonderfully fast.
What part of Proton’s feature set is limited and compared to what other service? You can do a whole lot more with proton than with Gmail for example.
Couldn't forward emails until about a month ago.
Their drive app backs up only the computer it's on and other computers cant access that backup. It's like a sectioned off part. Or I can upload files that any of my devices can access.
Their calendar has some problems with compatibility of run into and it's things that the person on either side can't change. Not world ending but it's really annoying.
They literally just added the ability to automatically add holidays to the calendar. And of course I had set it up about a month prior so I manually entered everything.
The proton drive app for your phone doesn't automatically back up anything.
I'm not shitting on proton because I'm an active proton unlimited subscriber and I use a bunch of their services, but I also recognize the flaws and how it's not as seamless as Google yet, which I don't expect it to be.
I also wish they had some better Linux support in preaching to the choir with that.
Love their vpn and the netshield features. Email works great and I love knowing I can read an email and automatically have trackers blocked. Aliases are great but I use their simple login site free with my proton subscription too. So my point is I like them lots, but it's not a complete Google replacement yet.
wow, that in particular seems like a minimum viable product feature
You could forward emails manually, but you couldn't setup a rule to automatically forward emails based on a rule.
Fwiw, I'm in the same boat as the other poster. Love proton, but it's not as seamless as Google.
Yep sorry I wasn't specific and thank you for clarifying. Auto forward so like I want my girlfriend to receive all my Walmart+ emails which doesn't let you have accounts like Amazon. So I forward all emails. Had to keep my Gmail to just make it easy. I'm sure there's a more complicated setup but it's Walmart... I just need email to get to both of us about orders.
It's like this because it's secure, there's was good reason they didn't have this feature. But it's inconvenient and I'm not using Proton because I'm a secret agent, I just to want to pay for a product instead of being the product.
Their calendar, contacts and bridge don’t support CalDAV/CardDAV, so you can’t synchronise them anywhere.
The iOS app doesn’t synchronise contacts or calendars either. There’s a one way “upload to proton”, but not the most helpful.
The public holidays only include some countries (not mine).
Their VPN is terrible with 20% packet loss, despite sitting in the same data center as other VPN providers without that issue.
But, still not google, and their mail app is better on iOS than fastmail.
Oh ok I was just referring to the email part. You are right that their non-email offerings do leave a lot to be desired. I’ve found that downloading files from Proton Drive as small as 3GB is almost impossible, because their download rate is atrocious and on iOS if you don’t keep the screen active during the download it’ll just stop with no way to resume later.
I mean...that's a long list, my guy.
Gmail client, no, but I have my (work) Gmail connected to Shortwave, which honestly is a fucking Godsend for all the people who insist on continuing to use email. It just makes it so much easier to organize everything.
You can't do the same thing with Proton (for good reason) but there's no reason they can't incorporate those features.