‘They lied’: plastics producers deceived public about recycling, report reveals

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theguardian.com

Plastic producers have known for more than 30 years that recycling is not an economically or technically feasible plastic waste management solution. That has not stopped them from promoting it, according to a new report.

“The companies lied,” said Richard Wiles, president of fossil-fuel accountability advocacy group the Center for Climate Integrity (CCI), which published the report. “It’s time to hold them accountable for the damage they’ve caused.”

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You seem to be a cruel optimist.

A relation of cruel optimism is a double-bind in which your attachment to an object sustains you in life at the same time as that object is actually a threat to your flourishing. So you can't say that there are objects that have the quality of cruelty or not cruelty, it's how you have the relationship to them.

"That's so deep, man."

Not really. If you go deeper, you’ll find that everyone is immoral.

If it is in our power to prevent something very bad from happening, without thereby sacrificing anything morally significant, we ought, morally, to do it.

Not really. If you go deeper, you’ll find that everyone is immoral.

I mean, we're straying far from the original conversation, so I'll just leave it with agree to disagree, and move on.

Take care.

And that is why nothing happens…

Take care.

And that is why nothing happens…

Take care.

Well, trying to meet you in the middle of "everyone is immoral" is too much of a hard ask.

I thought we were having an honest and polite conversation, but you seem to go for that last Internet point win all of a sudden.

What was your expectation? What exactly are you advocating?