Israel vows to 'finish the job' in Gaza as War Cabinet member threatens a Ramadan deadline for Rafah

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Israel strikes across Gaza as US says it will block another cease-fire resolution at the UN
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The U.S., Israel’s top ally, said it instead hopes to broker a cease-fire and hostage-release agreement between Israel and Hamas, and envisions a wider resolution on the war sparked by the militant group’s Oct. 7 attack. Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has called Hamas’ demands “delusional.”

Netanyahu also opposes Palestinian statehood, which the U.S. calls a key element in a broader vision for the normalization of relations between Israel and regional heavyweight Saudi Arabia. His Cabinet adopted a declaration Sunday saying Israel “categorically rejects international edicts on a permanent arrangement with the Palestinians” and opposes any unilateral recognition of a Palestinian state.

Netanyahu has vowed to continue the Gaza offensive until Israel achieves a “total victory” over the Hamas militant group and plans to expand it to Gaza’s southernmost city of Rafah, where more than half the enclave’s 2.3 million Palestinians have sought refuge.

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Some kind of reaction was Legitimate, because the attack in Oct were terrible, but Israel went too far, and we’re way past equivalent response

It should be pointed out that Israel is clearly NOT doing this in response to Oct 7th. Hamas was clearly responsible for Oct 7th, and Israel is clearly not attempting to retaliate against Hamas; bombing a building on the off chance that your enemy is within it isn't a counterattack, it's just terrorism, and repeating that action on the scale that Israel is repeating it is not a war, it's genocide.

Some would say the attack on Oct 7th was legitimate, because Israel had already been going too far for almost a century.

The stuff we’re seeing in the past few months is simply what Israel has always done but in a condensed timeframe.

Some would be wrong because they involved innocents.

So you’re against bombing a city during war time?

Should Ukraine not send missiles towards Russia as innocents die?

Were Native American attacks on colonists wrong because the colonists were innocent?

Are members of a state, who allow that state to commit evil and do nothing, or worse vote them into power innocent?

Israelis are responsible for Israel’s actions.

There's a major difference between attacking armed military targets during a war, and bombing hospitals full of innocent people.

If you're going to take all the subtly out of the conversation, then by that same stroke all Palestinians are responsible for the actions of Hamas, which means everything Israel is doing is justifiable, which you and I both know is plain wrong.

You can't have your cake and eat it too - either attacking civilians is always wrong or it isn't - and I'd rather stand on the side of not justifying killing innocent people.

I get where you are coming from truly.

Remember that everyone woke up on 10/8 and kept the innocent hostages that had nothing to do with it.

They did not.

At that point they could have uninvolved they innocents and shown everyone their true intentions, and that they only wanted to involve Israel.

They didn’t.

Let’s be real, 1 phone call to the US government and you would have an extraction team to get our people out easier than a slick shit.

They didn’t.

They chose to keep the innocents.

Fuck hummus and fuck israel

Since you're ok with war crimes, what are you complaining about? if Oct 7 was ok, then what ever retribution Israel drops on Gaza is ok too. Palestinians are responsible for Palestine'd actions.

So, some would say killing and raping civilians is legitimate? Cool.

Yet you're silent on the 30,000 dead civilians Israel has killed in the last few months, and instead say Palestinians should help Israel.

"Equivalent response" would have been raping, killing and torturing civilians.

As long as Hamas is around, they will do that shit again.

Maybe, just maybe, people of Gaza should be helping Israel to get rid of those murderers.

This is exactly why armed resistance is both inevitable and entirely justified. The UN agrees - of whom Israel explicitly refuses to allow record the conflict. Israel kills the record-keepers and then gaslights away the truth.

Fascism rides again under the colors blue and white.

oh so, as long as Hamas just kills random Israeli, it's fine? or is this only apply when the targets of the random killings are white Judeo-Christians?