MAGA freaks out after Fox News reports Obama in top 10 presidents — and Trump in dead last

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MAGA freaks out after Fox News reports Obama in top 10 presidents — and Trump in dead last
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Fox News reported on some new presidential rankings, which purportedly show Barack Obama as the #6 president in U.S. history and Donald Trump dead last, and MAGA was not happy.

Fox News on Sunday posted an article about the new rankings by the Presidential Greatness Project, which Fox describes as "a group of self-styled experts." It states that Abraham "Lincoln topped the list of presidents in the 2024 Presidential Greatness Project expert survey for the third time, following his top spot in the rankings in the 2015 and 2018 versions of the survey."

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"Rounding out the top five in the rankings were Franklin Delano Roosevelt at number two, George Washington at three, Theodore Roosevelt at four, and Thomas Jefferson at five," according to the report. "Trump was ranked in last place in the survey, being ranked worse than James Buchanan at 44, Andrew Johnson at 43, Franklin Pierce at 42, and William Henry Harrison at 41."

The report states that Obama and Joe Biden "ranked an average of 6th and 13th, respectively, among Democrat respondents, and 15th and 30th by Republicans."

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Here's the full combined list:

  1. Lincoln
  2. FD Roosevelt
  3. Washington
  4. T Roosevelt
  5. Jefferson
  6. Truman
  7. Obama
  8. Eisenhower
  9. LB Johnson
  10. Kennedy
  11. Madison
  12. Clinton
  13. J Adams
  14. Biden
  15. Wilson
  16. Reagan
  17. Grant
  18. Monroe
  19. GHW Bush
  20. JQ Adams
  21. Jackson
  22. Carter
  23. Taft
  24. McKinley
  25. Polk
  26. Cleveland
  27. Ford
  28. Van Buren
  29. Hayes
  30. Garfield
  31. Harrison
  32. GW Bush
  33. Arthur
  34. Coolidge
  35. Nixon
  36. Hoover
  37. Tyler
  38. Taylor
  39. Fillmore
  40. Harding
  41. Harrison
  42. Pierce
  43. Johnson
  44. Buchanan
  45. Trump

Source: http://www.brandonrottinghaus.com/uploads/1/0/8/7/108798321/presidential_greatness_white_paper_2024.pdf

How the fuck is Reagan top 20

Historians create the list, so sometimes it is about the history these Presidents lived through. Reagan is seen as an element in the fall of the Soviet Union, and thus the recreation of many countries and world order.

Puts him at about average. Reagan represents a brand of conservatism that many disagree with but that doesn’t inherently make him a bad president.

This should really worry Republicans. Apparently this came from surveying people. If Reagan is 16 , and Obama is 7, and Trump is absolutely last, it says a whole fucking lot about the electorate.

Edit: I'm mistaken, it's political science folks. So probably not as worrying to them.

I've met many people in real life who seem to believe Reagon is great due to his "very successful" Reaganomics. I don't know if they actually knew what Reaganomics really was or the results of it.

45. Trump

I'm glad to see Trump acknowledge and celebrate his place at the bottom of the list.

Carter #1 in our hearts

He may be the best human being in the office. He micromanaged his staff--he required personal signing off on the White House tennis court usage--and never figured out the sausage making process with Congress. His actual accomplishments were limited.

Presidental history isn't my strongest area, but I'd bump up Eisenhauer before Truman.

I feel the jump after #5 is a pretty sizeable one.

I'm trying to justify moving down GHWB and Jackson, but looking at who comes in after them, it's hard to come up with anything to put them over either of them.

Looking at the list objectively, it's pretty amazing the combined list of terrible things we can list off that all these people did. The tops 5 included. But I feel those are the only ones I can say what they did was so monumental that the country was better off after their terms and I wonder if we would ever get a leader like any of them again.

Still sad to see the amount of slavery and war crimes in the top 5 though.

  1. Van Buren

That’s a lot higher than I’d put the guy who so “skillfully” handled the panic of 1837.

why did they only rank top 45? such a specific number.

Because Grover Cleveland fucked it all up by serving non-consecutive terms.

They should have ranked his 1st and 2nd terms individually smdh

dinglebutt would have been lower, but there were only that many eligible names this go-around.

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