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Ultragigagigantic@lemmy.world to Lemmy Shitpost@lemmy.world – 894 points –

Don't worry everyone, I'm sure someone somewhere is worse and that makes this okay somehow.

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It depends on whether the underlying message is true. If the viewer thinks it is a lie, it’s misinformation. If they think it is true, it is satire. Is the underlying message in this post true?

It seems clear that you don’t think it is true. Others think it is, and see it as satire. The question that begs to be asked is, “Why do they think it is true?”

I happen to be in full agreement about the hypocrisy people are identifying.

However, I believe your definition of “satire” leaves so much gray area to make it a useless word. Pizza gate is satire according to your definition. Q Anon is satire. All the lies republicans spread about democrats is satire.

I’m not willing to accept that and I expect better from the content that supports my ideology.

Pray tell, what satirical truth was Pizza Gate and Q-Anon elucidating? Were there Democrats feasting on the adrenochrome of infants in a basement of a pizza restaurant? No? Then it is “deceptive,” and thus misinformation. Is President Biden a cloned actor that is trying to instate a One World Government? No? Then it is misinformation and deception.

Deception seeks to subvert or mask the truth. Satire seeks to comically demonstrate the truth. Satire can’t be untruthful, or else it ceases to be satire and becomes just a lie. This post, if truthful, can’t be a lie; thus, it is satire.

Pray tell, what satirical truth was Pizza Gate and Q-Anon elucidating? Were there Democrats feasting on the adrenochrome of infants in a basement of a pizza restaurant?

No?

In your opinion. Others have different opinions. Satire can be whatever the viewer wants it to be apparently…

If you think this is satire, then that’s fine for you. I think at best it is a crappy attempt at satire that muddles whatever point they wanted to convey. At worst it is a lie meant to appeal to the homophonic Facebook (pardon the slur) boomers looking to justify their ideology.

For me, if you want to call it satire, it better be obvious that the creator intended it to be taken as satire and not truth.