We're back to actually calling it a majority again because Manchin needs defending. Neat.
It’s called a majority because 51 out of 100 is a majority. 50+1 people caucusing for the DNC gives the more progressive party the majority leader’s gavel and control over what comes to the floor.
Manchin’s desk could be filled by gorilla in a top hat, but as long as that gorilla is caucusing with the Dems, then it is a vote for a Democratic majority leader.
You have two options:
a conservative + a seat counting for a GOP majority leader + very few votes in favor of more progressive legislation
a conservative + a seat counting for a DNC majority leader + an occasional vote in favor of more progressive legislation
Those have been the two options out of West Virgina. That’s it. Gravity is real, the world is round, and West Virginians put super conservative people on the ballot.
Most people that want him in that seat don’t want him for his politics. They want him because of grade school arithmetic.
Hey man, don't forget to add some butter to that crustacean you're roasting.
When I criticize Democrats for getting so little of what they promise done, some apologist is quick to insist that the Democrats haven't had a majority in the senate and that Manchin doesn't count.
Now that someone's saying that your god is imperfect, he's crucial to what is conveniently a majority.
The argument is usually
we need more democrats or people caucusing with them in office if you want to see more progressive legislation getting passed.
electing more democrats is MUCH easier to do in the swing states. Electing someone more progressive in a Trump +40 state is going to be damn near impossible
I've had people straight up tell me that Biden never had a Senate majority to work with, right here on lemmy.
Now Democrats magically have the majority their numbers indicate, and it's all thanks to Manchin.
Nuance.
Does Biden have enough people caucusing with his party to win the majority leader gavel and prevent Mitch McConnell from dictating what gets brought to the floor? Yes.
Does Biden have enough progressives to get more progressive stuff passed? No. Two conservative democrats block that.
Arizona will be good place to fight for one of those seats, since Sinema is out and that is a swing state. West Virginia is NOT a swing state, and left leaning people need to look elsewhere for additional progressives. WV is redder than Superman’s underwear. The fact that they’ve elected anyone with a D is an outlier there.
Does Biden have enough progressives to get more progressive stuff passed? No. Two conservative democrats block that.
The party will always find just enough no votes, no matter how big a majority we give them.
2008 begs to differ.
2008? When we gave Democrats a supermajority and they found enough no votes to kill the public option? When we gave the Democrats a supermajority and they didn't bother to codify Roe? That 2008?
We're back to actually calling it a majority again because Manchin needs defending. Neat.
It’s called a majority because 51 out of 100 is a majority. 50+1 people caucusing for the DNC gives the more progressive party the majority leader’s gavel and control over what comes to the floor.
Manchin’s desk could be filled by gorilla in a top hat, but as long as that gorilla is caucusing with the Dems, then it is a vote for a Democratic majority leader.
You have two options:
Those have been the two options out of West Virgina. That’s it. Gravity is real, the world is round, and West Virginians put super conservative people on the ballot.
Most people that want him in that seat don’t want him for his politics. They want him because of grade school arithmetic.
Hey man, don't forget to add some butter to that crustacean you're roasting.
When I criticize Democrats for getting so little of what they promise done, some apologist is quick to insist that the Democrats haven't had a majority in the senate and that Manchin doesn't count.
Now that someone's saying that your god is imperfect, he's crucial to what is conveniently a majority.
The argument is usually
I've had people straight up tell me that Biden never had a Senate majority to work with, right here on lemmy.
Now Democrats magically have the majority their numbers indicate, and it's all thanks to Manchin.
Nuance.
Does Biden have enough people caucusing with his party to win the majority leader gavel and prevent Mitch McConnell from dictating what gets brought to the floor? Yes.
Does Biden have enough progressives to get more progressive stuff passed? No. Two conservative democrats block that.
Arizona will be good place to fight for one of those seats, since Sinema is out and that is a swing state. West Virginia is NOT a swing state, and left leaning people need to look elsewhere for additional progressives. WV is redder than Superman’s underwear. The fact that they’ve elected anyone with a D is an outlier there.
The party will always find just enough no votes, no matter how big a majority we give them.
2008 begs to differ.
2008? When we gave Democrats a supermajority and they found enough no votes to kill the public option? When we gave the Democrats a supermajority and they didn't bother to codify Roe? That 2008?