I’m not trying to convince you of anything. You always debate the same way. This wasn’t a debate about your vote. It was a discussion about what caused previous elections to fail, and why we have centrist Democrat candidates. Your self-centeredness makes it impossible to maintain focus of a discussion outside of your own interest.
I’m not trying to convince you of anything. You always debate the same way.
As do you. When I've made a point you can't argue against, you start arguing why to vote for Biden, and when I say you're preaching to the choir, you call me selfish.
Biden still needs to convince voters to vote for him, and it doesn't matter that you think they should just be happy with what you're happy with.
Do you even remember the point of this discussion? I disagreed with another commenter on the reliability of the moderate Democratic vote, citing the sizable abstentions in the 2016 election by progressives. You blamed the candidate. We’re looking at the exact same situation this election. It’s too late for Biden to step down, and he against Trump again.
Are you really going to blame the candidate again now that America saw the direct impact of abstention in 2016 giving Trump the win? The repercussions of this election rests completely on the shoulders of voters.
You are pathologically incapable of imagining that voters are humans with agency.
And you seem to think voting is some personal commitment to a candidate and not the simple numbers game that politicians use to gain control.
Centrists are so fucking exhausting. Do any of you see voters as humans instead of demographics to be marketed to and exploited?
I’m not a centrist. I’m an informed progressive who leverages my vote to get the closest elector to my ideals that is available. That absolutely results in “settling” to prevent another backslide in policy from a Republican win.
I’m not a centrist.
if you say so.
I’m an informed progressive who leverages my vote to get the closest elector to my ideals that is available.
And yet you can't see that humans aren't numbers.
I never said humans were numbers. That was your accusation.
I said elections were about numbers. Ask any political scientist.
I said elections were about numbers.
Numbers of what?
Strategic votes. Not people. If it were an actual representation of people, then Trump would never have been President, having lost the popular vote in 2016.
Strategic votes. Not people.
Yes, Numbers cast votes in your universe because numbers can be manipulated without putting in as much work.
If it were an actual representation of people, then Trump would never have been President, having lost the popular vote in 2016.
Clinton was such a shitty candidate that she didn't take the electoral college into account and didn't campaign to all those non-people you despise in the worthless flyover states. They were beneath her because numbers were gonna vote for her instead. Look at how that worked out.
I’m not trying to convince you of anything. You always debate the same way. This wasn’t a debate about your vote. It was a discussion about what caused previous elections to fail, and why we have centrist Democrat candidates. Your self-centeredness makes it impossible to maintain focus of a discussion outside of your own interest.
As do you. When I've made a point you can't argue against, you start arguing why to vote for Biden, and when I say you're preaching to the choir, you call me selfish.
Biden still needs to convince voters to vote for him, and it doesn't matter that you think they should just be happy with what you're happy with.
Do you even remember the point of this discussion? I disagreed with another commenter on the reliability of the moderate Democratic vote, citing the sizable abstentions in the 2016 election by progressives. You blamed the candidate. We’re looking at the exact same situation this election. It’s too late for Biden to step down, and he against Trump again.
Are you really going to blame the candidate again now that America saw the direct impact of abstention in 2016 giving Trump the win? The repercussions of this election rests completely on the shoulders of voters.
You are pathologically incapable of imagining that voters are humans with agency.
And you seem to think voting is some personal commitment to a candidate and not the simple numbers game that politicians use to gain control.
Centrists are so fucking exhausting. Do any of you see voters as humans instead of demographics to be marketed to and exploited?
I’m not a centrist. I’m an informed progressive who leverages my vote to get the closest elector to my ideals that is available. That absolutely results in “settling” to prevent another backslide in policy from a Republican win.
if you say so.
And yet you can't see that humans aren't numbers.
I never said humans were numbers. That was your accusation.
I said elections were about numbers. Ask any political scientist.
Numbers of what?
Strategic votes. Not people. If it were an actual representation of people, then Trump would never have been President, having lost the popular vote in 2016.
Yes, Numbers cast votes in your universe because numbers can be manipulated without putting in as much work.
Clinton was such a shitty candidate that she didn't take the electoral college into account and didn't campaign to all those non-people you despise in the worthless flyover states. They were beneath her because numbers were gonna vote for her instead. Look at how that worked out.