Nato summit: Ukraine on 'irreversible path' to membership

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Nato members have pledged their support for an "irreversible path" to future membership for Ukraine, as well as more aid.

While a formal timeline for it to join the military alliance was not agreed at a summit in Washington DC, the military alliance's 32 members said they had "unwavering" support for Ukraine's war effort.

Nato has also announced further integration with Ukraine's military and members have committed €40bn ($43.3bn, £33.7bn) in aid in the next year, including F-16 fighter jets and air defence support.

The bloc's Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg said: "Support to Ukraine is not charity - it is in our own security interest."

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https://www.nato.int/nato_static_fl2014/assets/pdf/2022/2/pdf/220214-factsheet_NATO-Ukraine_Relations_.pdf

June 2017, the Ukrainian Parliament adopted legislation reinstating membership in NATO as a strategic foreign and security policy objective. In 2019, a corresponding amendment to Ukraine’s Constitution entered into force.

In September 2020, President Volodymyr Zelenskyy approved Ukraine’s new National Security Strategy, which provides for the development of the distinctive partnership with NATO with the aim of membership in NATO

Also relevant is Zelensky staging a coup in Ukraine in 2014 to overthrow the Russian puppet regime that was in place at that time. Meaning Russia lost control over Ukraine politically.

Right. And if I say that I'm changing my diet to fit with my neighbours, that doesn't make me part of neighbour's family.

I get what you're saying, they were aligning themselves to become NATO members. That's not the same as what's happening now though where NATO are saying "yes we want them in", which is an outcome Russia has caused by this invasion.

Edit- just another note..both of these occurred since Russia annexed Crimea, which could definitely be construed as aggressive behaviour on Russia's part. Again pointing towards Russia causing an outcome they're claiming to have a problem with.

Actually NATO just rejected the Ukrainian application. Looks like we're throwing more Ukrainians into the meat grinder and not fighting ourselves.

I guess wanting them in, and feeling that it's appropriate to bring them in right now are two different things.

As they've said. They want them in. That's not the same as thinking they should be in now.

I want to retire, but retiring right now is not appropriate.

First Ukraine didn't apply. That was false.

Then Ukraine was joining NATO. That was false.

IDK nobody here seems interested in literal facts so let's call it quits here.