Oh, they call through Whatsapp, yeah. About 50% of the time, I'd say.
No, for real. A lot of my audio calls are through WhatsApp as well, they just show up as normal calls, and since that goes through wifi a lot of people on prepaid phones prefer that, especially if they have relatives in other countries that would trigger roaming charges. After a while it becomes habit.
You really, really, REALLY don't have a picture of the scale of penetration into society of this particular application. I'm not shocked, I've seen it before. The slow realization is kinda funny, actually. If it makes you feel better, I keep hearing "blue bubbles" as something that full-on political parties have opinions about and I don't see the point, either.
There's not going to be any slow realization for me. Nobody in my country uses this shit at all and even if they did I still wouldn't.
Part of the problem with your point of view is that you think everyone gives a shit about controlling or intends to control the behavior of these companies through purchasing and usage patterns. Maybe some people do intend that. I don't, and I'm sure there are others that don't either.
I don't purchase this shit from these corporations or use their bullshit because it improves my life not to.
Okay, so does that mean if it improves your life to do so by, say, allowing your friends and family to get in touch with you without needing a tutorial first each time, you would use their services?
Because I have big news about what that would mean if you were to live somewhere else.
Look, I'm gonna try to be as gentle as possible here, but your argument that you don't care because you're too American to be concerned about how people do things elsewhere is not as good of a look as you may have thought it was when you wrote it. And your claim that your performative anger isn't about making a point, but rather to "improve your life" doesn't quite line up with your ardent defense of the idea that you express or withdraw support by using money.
That's fine, we can move on from this tangent, but hey, at least respect my intelligence a teensy bit. Not even that much, just the bare minimum.
And your claim that your performative anger isn’t about making a point, but rather to “improve your life” doesn’t quite line up with your ardent defense of the idea that you express or withdraw support by using money.
Performative anger? WTF are you even talking about?
Money just is a form of support, and that's not a notion. They even call payment to your children fucking "child support".
your argument that you don’t care because you’re too American to be concerned about how people do things elsewhere is not as good of a look as you may have thought it was when you wrote it.
It isn't an argument. It's reality. Also i frankly don't give a shit what it looks like.
Yeah, I'm gonna rest my case here, friend.
I mean, not that anybody is reading this but us this deep into it, but if they were I'd just point at that post and shrug, and I'd feel pretty good about that.
Lol whatever. Stop caping for evil ass corporations and then trying to couch your positions in pseudo leftist bullshit.
It's completely fine actually for someone to be like i ain't buying that fucking optional doodad because i don't want to deal with the corporate overlord that owns it.
Yeah. That's perfectly fine. Zero issue with that on my end.
More of an issue with "it's morally wrong of two billion people to even consider having a Meta account of any kind", or claiming that Meta is doing things it is not doing, or moving the goalposts of acceptability if and when Meta caves to pressure.
Like, not a big issue, as you say this is an expensive toy for nerds, so not a major dealbreaker. Just a bit of a shame and mild frustration at the unreasonableness.
Well, that was like sixty posts of dogpile ago. Now it's mild annoyance at online behavior in general. Although I'm honesly relatively proud of myself for not being angrier about this nonsense at this point.
More of an issue with “it’s morally wrong of two billion people to even consider having a Meta account of any kind”,
I didn't read that anywhere, but it could be here and if it was i wouldn't agree with it at all.
I feel like this hits a nerve for you in some way it shouldn't. You aren't anything for having a Meta account besides someone that has a Meta account.
Meh. Honestly it's the mob mentality more than anything else. That and the weird "I'd love to have a cheap HMD but screw Meta" reverse-FOMO thing.
The rest of the humongous thread is the same lack of self-awareness everybody has on places like these. Good old forum nerdrage.
Oh, they call through Whatsapp, yeah. About 50% of the time, I'd say.
No, for real. A lot of my audio calls are through WhatsApp as well, they just show up as normal calls, and since that goes through wifi a lot of people on prepaid phones prefer that, especially if they have relatives in other countries that would trigger roaming charges. After a while it becomes habit.
You really, really, REALLY don't have a picture of the scale of penetration into society of this particular application. I'm not shocked, I've seen it before. The slow realization is kinda funny, actually. If it makes you feel better, I keep hearing "blue bubbles" as something that full-on political parties have opinions about and I don't see the point, either.
There's not going to be any slow realization for me. Nobody in my country uses this shit at all and even if they did I still wouldn't.
Part of the problem with your point of view is that you think everyone gives a shit about controlling or intends to control the behavior of these companies through purchasing and usage patterns. Maybe some people do intend that. I don't, and I'm sure there are others that don't either.
I don't purchase this shit from these corporations or use their bullshit because it improves my life not to.
Okay, so does that mean if it improves your life to do so by, say, allowing your friends and family to get in touch with you without needing a tutorial first each time, you would use their services?
Because I have big news about what that would mean if you were to live somewhere else.
Look, I'm gonna try to be as gentle as possible here, but your argument that you don't care because you're too American to be concerned about how people do things elsewhere is not as good of a look as you may have thought it was when you wrote it. And your claim that your performative anger isn't about making a point, but rather to "improve your life" doesn't quite line up with your ardent defense of the idea that you express or withdraw support by using money.
That's fine, we can move on from this tangent, but hey, at least respect my intelligence a teensy bit. Not even that much, just the bare minimum.
Performative anger? WTF are you even talking about?
Money just is a form of support, and that's not a notion. They even call payment to your children fucking "child support".
It isn't an argument. It's reality. Also i frankly don't give a shit what it looks like.
Yeah, I'm gonna rest my case here, friend.
I mean, not that anybody is reading this but us this deep into it, but if they were I'd just point at that post and shrug, and I'd feel pretty good about that.
Lol whatever. Stop caping for evil ass corporations and then trying to couch your positions in pseudo leftist bullshit.
It's completely fine actually for someone to be like i ain't buying that fucking optional doodad because i don't want to deal with the corporate overlord that owns it.
Yeah. That's perfectly fine. Zero issue with that on my end.
More of an issue with "it's morally wrong of two billion people to even consider having a Meta account of any kind", or claiming that Meta is doing things it is not doing, or moving the goalposts of acceptability if and when Meta caves to pressure.
Like, not a big issue, as you say this is an expensive toy for nerds, so not a major dealbreaker. Just a bit of a shame and mild frustration at the unreasonableness.
Well, that was like sixty posts of dogpile ago. Now it's mild annoyance at online behavior in general. Although I'm honesly relatively proud of myself for not being angrier about this nonsense at this point.
I didn't read that anywhere, but it could be here and if it was i wouldn't agree with it at all.
I feel like this hits a nerve for you in some way it shouldn't. You aren't anything for having a Meta account besides someone that has a Meta account.
Meh. Honestly it's the mob mentality more than anything else. That and the weird "I'd love to have a cheap HMD but screw Meta" reverse-FOMO thing.
The rest of the humongous thread is the same lack of self-awareness everybody has on places like these. Good old forum nerdrage.