Squad Member Summer Lee Says Pelosi Wrong That Harris Should Govern From Center: ‘Progressive Ideals’ Are ‘What Average American Wants’

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Squad Member Summer Lee Says Pelosi Wrong That Harris Should Govern From Center: ‘Progressive Ideals’ Are ‘What Average American Wants’
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You want [more] progress? You need to vote and give Dems consistent and overwhelming victories.

So they can find just enough no votes like they always fucking do.

Hello Mr Crab! What should we cover today? Oh ok it looks like you're on a semi-conspiracy that they will "find" aka you are implying create no votes. I think it's enough to call out the conspiracy. I wonder if that's enough for this one.

It's not a conspiracy to notice that the party breaks its promises.

Ah MrCrab, you are implying that they do nothing, ever, anywhere, that any one of their voters want. Thus the semiconspiracy. As addressed in my other reply, you can't do everything, everywhere, all at once. Because: Writing up legislation takes time, energy, and political capital. You can’t do literally everything, everywhere, all at once.

Ah MrCrab, you are implying that they do nothing, ever, anywhere, that any one of their voters want.

No, they do what you want. Break their promises and support genocide.

Because: Writing up legislation takes time, energy, and political capital.

You're pretending that legislation can't be written ahead of time. You're making excuses.

No, they do what you want. Break their promises

Again: Green energy, EV investment, union empowerment, student debt forgiveness, marijuana rescheduling and pardons, infrastructure, drug price controls, Chips act, PACT act, etc etc etc. Non-competes banned (by FTC along 'party lines'). Pardoning people kicked out for being gay. Supporting Ukraine.

I like all that.

Obama's ACA? Like.

You’re pretending that legislation can’t be written ahead of time.

You don't blindly write everything ahead of time. This isn't like Project 2025 where you do whatever you want despite what the people want. The situation on the ground changes, what you can fund changes, what the most important issue is changes, the findings of studies changes, which reps and which senators will vote for what. Fucking everything changes.

Obama probably wanted to do more on healthcare. You know what changed? The fucking great recession. You have to change with the situation you have.

Biden probably wanted to fund more things? You know what changed everything? Fucking COVID with another insane budget crunch. He had to focus on covid relief first. Then see how business changes coming out of that. You have to change with the situation you have.

Seriously that you want to blindly write everything is just... unbelievable. That's dogma and ideology. Not reality, and the complexity and nuance of life (or politics, which is tenfold complexity and nuance).

You lied to me. We're done.

To anyone else, Mr Crab is upset that in a different chain that I said Biden rescheduled weed, when he told whatever agency to look at it. So he's using it as an out instead of replying.

You lied. Cannabis is still Schedule 1. "We're looking into it" is not an accomplishment. You lied so we're done. If you don't like that, you shouldn't have lied.

Oh so instead I may have gotten a little ahead of the ball. Like wow you're still being pedantic. Instead of actually responding.

Have at being upset, I think everyone can see you're just trying to use it as an out instead of an intellectual response. Like how you keep saying you're done, but you keep coming back.