JD Vance’s wife: My husband only meant to insult people who actively choose not to have kids, not people who are trying but are unsuccessful

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She did not touch on his claim that people who don’t have kids are more sociopathic.

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I wonder how she fits all the cognitive dissonance in her head?

Lady, he’s actively courting white supremacists and you are not white. Things are going to come to a head at some point for you in a very personal sense.

Lady, he’s actively courting white supremacists and you are not white.

She's pretty sure the leopards won't eat her face though.

She's probably right until the third or fourth year after the reich is installed.

If the leopards win my small hope will be that i get to see her, clarence t and their ilks faces after they outlive their use and are up against the wall next to the people they sold out

And if her kids ever refer to themselves as Indian god forbid they ever mention their white background because according to Trump that's illegal.

So make sure the pick the proper race qt the beginning, like the half-elven in LOTR

What you need to understand is that India has a rigid caste system based on inheritance just like the US does; there was one already there in a lot of places and the britishers codified the hell out of it.

Many upper class Indian people don't see a conflict with white supremacy because they come from, and benefit from, the exact same system.

Somebody like Vivek Ramaswamy, for example. He looks like a dude with dark skin to a generic American. But that combination of names is a giveaway that he's a Tamil Brahmin; once you see his nose and forehead you have a pretty good guess of what his ancestral temple allegiance is; this all happens automatically for people from India (I am not but was married into a Tam-Bram family for 20 years and I picked it up myself).

I'm not saying that this is determinative of political stances; I know plenty of democratic voting upper crust Indians. But somebody like Usha Vance or Vivek Ramaswamy looks in the mirror and sees a Brahmin, which is the equivalent of me looking in the mirror and seeing a white person. They do not perceive themselves as a "minority".

Oh, I very much get that it’s probably related in some way to the caste system. I also think that the higher-caste/lighter-skinned Indians don’t really understand white supremacy if they think they’re gonna get a pass just because they’re wealthy and not quite as dark-skinned as other castes.

They did under the Raj, though, (still just barely) in living memory.

You’re right, that’s exactly how race supremacists see themselves relative to other people. However, these things are a fragile and temporary alliance till they deal with the “undesirables”. Funny thing, the status of “undesirable” is ever shifting. Many white people and white immigrants of Italian or Irish descent were considered “undesirable” in early U.S. history. There’s never any rational to race supremacy other than protecting the “in-group”, and that changes with the changing tides of power

Edit Vance is Scot-Irish, and sadly his people have this in their ancestral history https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Irish_sentiment

She checks the bank account and the dissonance is worth it to her

JD Vance is the best choice EVER for a republican VP candidate.
Please continue both of you, you are really helping.
Hey BTW why don't you turn it up a notch, that would be even better. 😋

She then claimed that if people would take a moment to try to “understand…the context” of her husband’s comment and focus less on the “three-word phrase,” they would understand that he was simply arguing that “it can be really hard to be a parent in this country, and sometimes our policies are designed in a way that make it even harder.”

Our policies. Policies like being against school lunches? Like voting against a child tax credit? Like not supporting or opposing funding for childcare? Like opposing paid parental leave? I don't know, it sure feels like some folks in particular have made it their goal to continue hardships for parents and children.

This is great. This is usually the kind of over explaining Democrats end up doing. Seeing the GOP getting stuck in this media hole is a breath of fresh air

Just more proof that “Pro-Life” is a lie.
Republicans are the party of “Anti-Choice.”

They're the party of "against whatever the Democrats are for"

In this topic they are anti choice not because of Democrats, but because of the Christian base. This is why they also are for banning contraception.

"I will lie and say absolutely anything to get me and my husband into the Vice Presidency. I'm a giant piece of shit." - Usha Vance (probably)

the fact that they're still stuck in this news cycle shows how much of a terrible pick this was from trump.

Well they have party members fighting those "trying to have kids" via in vitro, so now they have to sort out that her statement doesn't line up with their party as well I suppose.

Yeah he’s a senator who while a republican backed by Thiel money barely won in Ohio. He was a very unwise pick

It’s funny to see that his wife is just as stupid as him. Billionaires and their proxies are such disgusting, weird human pieces of shit, and it shows!

They should be 100% behind the gays then, they keep having sex but are never successful at getting pregnant.

He should also support adoption by same sex couples, surrogacy and IVF, but I kinda doubt he does.

Holy shit... because I'm 43 and I never had kids I didn't ever realize the subtext is to fully delegitimize same sex couples, wow the right is on the wrong side of history

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It's actually from joking about voting for McCain and Palin, the response was go ahead and vote for team evil... much simpler times

I love how she's like, "Oh no he wasn't insulting you specifically." Like dude, he's already insulting people for something completely insane, it doesn't matter which group of people he's targeting. No wonder she's with him.

Anyone who is fine insulting people for their mixed race heritage while also having mixed race kids of their own is a a special type of asshole. There’s ignorance (which can be fixed) and then there’s being a complete sociopath who sells their own children’s wellbeing just for career advancement. I feel very sorry for their kids.

What's dumb about this whole thing is the same folks who would insult people who choose to be childless are also the type to insult people for having children 'they can't afford'.

Standard deflection by the powerful who of course created this situation of economic and environmental insecurity causing people to decide not to have children.

I'm one of those. No way am i making a kid. Used to want one. Can't afford it and wouldn't doom anyone to the future i see

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⬆️ Vance Family

He didn't quite understand the concept of a cuck chair, hence the couch memes.

I have a question. I have actively chosen to not have kids because I don’t want to, but I once went into a MEPS and literally signed my life away to Uncle Sam as a tool of the Navy.

Does that make me more or less American than the people who just cum in each other for something to do on a Tuesday, because they’re in America?

I'm choosing not to have kids because of all the fucked up genetics in my family.

Tons of depression, cancer, mental illness and antisocial behavior. I don't want anyone else to have to suffer what I've had to deal with this life.

I hope you're well, mate. That sounds like a rough lot, but I really hope that you have folks around you that love you, and can be good for you. I had a friend that I probably didn't tell enough that I wanted to be there for him when he was down. It can be hard for people watching loved ones struggle and not knowing how to engage with it, but I hope that it isn't seen as them not caring, and hope that you have those friends or family ready to support you, even I'd they don't quite know how to right away.

Thank you, and I do have a pretty good support group. If anything has gone well in my life is that there are a few people I can rely on and who get me and are always there. And I can't imagine how hard this life would have been without them.

That's very altruistic of you. You can always adopt if you want to have kids btw.

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It's strange that their animosity towards the childless is an order of magnitude more vocal and persistent than their animosity towards the MAGA voters who racially abused, and continue to racially abuse, Mrs. Vance and their children. One might even go so far as to call this disparity "weird".

Repugnicunts know they aren't getting any meaningful growth from new converts, so they rely on the Catholic Church's tactic of forcing all of their faction to give birth as much as possible to make up for the numbers.

Ah. Well that clears it all up, then. Thanks for the insight, I guess?

/please blink three times if you are under duress

Fuck these stupid breeders.

Is having kids bad?

Not necessarily, but it's not right for everyone.

Fair enough but let's not label them "breeders" and tell them to get fucked.

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Knowing what kind of future they inevitably face I think I'm forced to say yes.

Humans have been breeding in arguably much worse potential futures than this point in time. People were breeding during world wars and famines etc....

Some shit sucks but that's part of life. I have the entire world's knowledge in the palm of my hands. Food is available for everyone around me. It's been much much worse than this.

I'm going to reject "people used to make equally bad ot worse decisions" as useful advice and I shall remain child free.

Do whatever you want for whatever reason you want. But it is true that people have been breeding through much worse times than this. Sorry it didn't work out for you.

Again, "people made bad decisions before" is not a good argument for me to also make a bad decision. You will stop contacting me now.

As one of the people WITH a kid, at least I have a couple amazing examples of how NOT to grow up.

But it will only be effective once I can convince him that these are real people. “Yes son, I am telling you they really ran a white supremacist who was married to a brown-skinned person and kept telling other people THEY were the sociopaths!”

I guess a lot of couches must be disappointed and feel like side-chicks, when he’s taking his wife with him on campaign tour

Everytime she opens her mouth I feel better about watching the racists her husband courts tear her apart.

Leopards, faces.

OMG, that makes it all better!😁 now you have my vote😙 No actually fuck off.

He's still a complete cunt. Nobody has to have kids if they don't want to.

Maybe don't insult the people you're trying to represent at ALL, asshole.

Ah so they are just against the freedom to choose not to have kids so his platform must include a forced breading program. That is so normal. Not weird at all.

Conservatives be like: be responsible, don't be a welfare queen, pull yourself up by your bootstraps

Also conservatives when people don't have kids due to money: you don't contribute to society.

Well ok then

As a brown woman, she's going to have serious issues down the line if drumpf wins.

I wonder if she ever considered that...

Given the absolute lemon of a human being she chose to hitch herself to, it's a safe bet that she has terrible judgement skills.

She might also just be a piece of shit herself

Yeah we like to talk about how groups like the Jews for Hitler were idiots for not seeing the writing on the wall, but they were also evil. The antisemitism alone would’ve made the Nazis evil, but they were evil for a lot of other reasons too.

What a stupid stupid bitch, they should treat her like the Republicans want to treat immigrants

I don't know, I would need to see the sex tape evidence they are trying. /s

TFW you wake up married to JD Vance and all his bullshit has come screaming down on you in a nationally televised way.

I'm in politics he said. Sure, helping people is nice. I met with silicon valley people he said. Well it's good to have friends I guess. I met with trump he said. sigh