it's a puzzling one i'll tell you hwat

empireOfLove@lemmy.one to Lemmy Shitpost@lemmy.world – 239 points –

i was legitimately confused why i was getting zero replies in very active threads. and yes this is just a whine post about how horribly opaque fediverse moderation is these days

rule 1? rule 2? fuck if I know what I said that broke those rules, here's a ban that you don't even get notified about. i probably said fuck too many times. that's "not respectful".

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You probably said something mean about Daddy Marx, or pointed out one of the many flaws with communism.

They're a sensitive lot.

Actually yeah. i'll guarantee that was it. 14 days ago I was making fun of hexbear users defending russia's war crimes in the memes /c/ of all places... which is weird that they defend it considering russia is very not-communist anymore.

still sucks since many of the largest communities around things like linux and tech are on .ml

They're campists; they can't understand any level of moral complexity.

Anyone who opposes the US is inherently good, because surely the west is the only one that can be imperialistic.

Okay can someone please point me to a real, physical, existing example of this happening? I've got multiple accounts on multiple instances from when the servers I used were less stable and not once on any of them have I ever seen a single person defended Russia or China politically.

Not trying to be divisive it just comes up a lot and at this point feels like a red scare tactic

Ah, but it's never happened to me, personally, so there's no way that's true!

That's how you sound.

Don't make fun of someone asking for a source. That's called critical thinking.

Really? It’s everywhere over there.

I haven't seen it personally, maybe I just run in different circles but I've asked to be directed to an example on 3 occasions now and never once has one been provided.

Not saying it isn't happening, would just like some proof that it's not just a band wagon

I had about 6 in my inbox at one time, but they've all been lost to the winds of fediverse moderation at this point.

A vast majority of instances have defederated from hexbear/lemmygrad/etc by now. So you dont see nearly as much of them outside of the main lemmy.ml communities, and those that do end up outside them ususally get moderated out by local admins.

If you really are curious. Take a scroll through some of the comments on hexbears "dunk tank" like so. See how long you can read before closing the tab out of disgust. Most of them are commenting completely unironically.... (That thread is not Russia specific yes but I couldn't stomach to scroll down that community any farther. It gives you an idea.)

I'm kinda not surprised the FOSS community would end up on a communist instance, I'm actually considering just blocking the entire .ML instance at this point.

I'm so sick of seeing them having a tantrum every time YouTube tries to make them either pay for the service, or watch ads.

I have a feeling it was more of "that was the biggest instance when we all got started here so we all just stayed here". The prime-mover advantage for lemmy.world and lemmy.ml is pretty severe and it still shows in user counts/activity. It's just gotten more obvious over time what lemmy.ml admins (and by extension the developers of the platform) really support.

Most of the Main developers are major simps for the ccp just getting it out there

I'm pretty sure if xi Jinping asked dandelions or whatever his name is to chow down on his rice noodle he'll do it without any hesitation taking one for the team

I mean they literally created Lemmy to move their communist bullshit off of Reddit. lemmy.ml is the result of that (on top of lemmy itself).

Shame such dumbasses created such a nice thing. At least we can now enjoy making fun of them.

You‘re not allowed to say anything bad about China or Russia over there. Got banned on a few communities too. The mods over there are pretty petty and enforce the „rules“ as they like.

Ahhh, the Reddit way

100% mods just toss them around to ban opinions they don't like. I even got one for genocide that I'm not even able to see what I said. Good Lord I wish I could see what pissed them off so much.

So a bunch of genocidal toddlers excommunicated you for telling them the truth.

That's a win, friendo.

The fastest way to handle lemmygrad or hexbear is to just rile them up real good in their communities.

Rather than me banning them, they all ban or block me. Ezpz.

Honestly, why even give a shit?

Of all the things to spend time and energy considering about, comment activity and lemmy.ml is an interestingly niche investment choice.

If you consider anything, it should be retrospectively a positive. You're cut from that pointless niche now. Go prosper.

I really don't care, I actually thought it was kind of hilarious i was just yelling into a federated void for two weeks before my slow ass finally realized something was off lmfao hence the meme about the really bad moderation system

Wait, how do I check for bans? Because I find it suspicious that I haven't been banned from anything when that happened regularly on Reddit

Go to the "Modlog" page at the very bottom of the web interface for your instance. You can search moderation tasks by username, such as your own, and it should show removed content.

I've found actual instance bans don't federate reliably though, e.g i cant see any of my lemmy.ml bans on lemmy.one. so you'd have to check the target instances by opening their web page in an incognito or logged-out browser window, and view their modlog directly instead of your home instances' modlog.

People have talked about a modlog but I had no idea what they meant

Thanks!

I've just seen I had a comment removed from lemmy.ml, for "rule 1" reasons but don't really see what's wrong with the comment other than it goes against the political grain of the community (world news).

but don’t really see what’s wrong with the comment other than it goes against the political grain of the community (world news).

thats how it do be these days, unfortunately

you'll never get more explanation than that

Yeah. I think it's basically they use it as a blanket rule to sensor content that goes against their political narrative.

I just realised that you can go to the instance in question and view search the modlog, it seems it has more entries. I actually got a ban! No idea why.

Fanks for the tip m8 just discovered the comment below had been banned for 'rule ' It's nice to know that my comment made an lemmyml admin so butthurt that he actually had to get off his cheese dorito and self injackulation ridden lazyboy chair kiss his little picture off marx lenin and xi jinping and move his mobility scooter two feet to his computer open it up and shadow ban me for half week for no reason just rule 1 i think we all know the reason why they removed the main comment which goes into proper detail I can't remember what if is exactly since its been a week since I posted thid

Yes. I have posted these links multiple times now.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_water_army?wprov=sfla1

Also the fifty cent party a Chinese troll farm based entirely on spreading propaganda for the ccp

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/50_Cent_Party?wprov=sfla1

This took me 5 seconds of research. If were being passive aggressive here ive gotta say. are you sure you didn’t get dropped on the head as a baby or eat copious amounts of lead

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This is an perfect example of the empty room fallacy also a pretty funny meme as well

Essentially the empty room fallacy is where you can't use any public social media platforms or say these things in public but you can say these things in a empty room. Is that still free speech. No that's absurd. The purpose of speech is to be able to communicate share ideas common interests to talk to one and another and to be able to challenge political ideas in a open and free manor and you can't do that on lemmyml. Not unless you want a 14 day ban for thought crime

Ideally we would want to sway away from what lemmy ml is doing even if that involves defederating

I'm going to be real with you bro. I've come across posts and comments from you before and without reading anything you've said here I can guarantee it's because you had nonsense or uninformed takes on something a mod cared a lot about. Probably global affairs or communism.

The only uninformed takes I read on this site on communism come from communists themselves.

I should be allowed to post my nonsense and uninformed takes however I please and get ridiculed by the community for it, not outright quiet-banned by mods just because they didn't like me. I'm a big boy, I can take the heat.

You sound like the type of person who goes to concert just to tell people the band isn't good

Good thing there are hundreds of other instances. This a solved problem with Lemmy.

No need to even complain about it. You have choice here.

The largest instances are going to be like reddit, yes.

Oh I know theres lots more out there. But I'm uber lazy and like my one comfy account with a specific set of subscribed comfy communities

Thanks, Lemmy.ml mods.

Probably the same COINTELPRO organization that runs /r/latestagecapitalism banstick like stalin. intentionally.