Twitch will now allow "Artistic Nudity" following the viral topless meta
dexerto.com
Twitch Updated their Sexual Content Policy:
- Changes: Certain content now allowed with labels
- Artistic Nudity: Permitted under Sexual Themes Label
- Game Nudity: Contextual; labels necessary
- Body Painting: Acceptable with appropriate label
- Mature Games: Label generally covers content
- Stream Visibility: Impacted by content labels
- Twerking, grinding and pole dancing are now allowed without a label.
Just become a soft-core porn site at this point, Twitch.
🤔 In away they did that already with the new rules.
It's hard to do that officially when a big chunk of users are minors. Neither Twitch nor the streamers of this content want to admit that they make money serving softcore porn to kids. Cause that'd be weird.
That’s right. Doing it is one thing but admitting what you’re doing? Too far
Tbh, the entire internet is full of softcore porn and has been for decades where kids can see it.
OnlyFans-Lite
Only(noctua)Fans
That'd be far higher quality than twitch is capable of.
Now that’s worth a subscription
I love this. Gaming and porn at the same place. It's honestly really nice
Amazon doing their own OnlyFans for minors. Who woulda thunk it.
I remember being a minor before twitch. Watching porn on the internet wasn’t the task you’d think it was without twitch.
at least those sites tell you to not enter if you're under 18
Damn well if the site says so
Read the article before commenting
So do channels. Idiot.
As if that matter though.
Will some streamers link their OnlyFans on Twitch with the help of third party apps, like Linktree. So they're half way there.
This way Amazon doesn’t lose the user to OF or anywhere else clicking off to another site.
Porn is artistic nudity.
That's the Infinite growth model for you.
If it grows infinitely, contact your doctor instantly!
And also if you manage to do that, you should contact the Clay Mathematics Institute as well, you're likely eligible for a free $1 Million.
I'd argue that it can be, but often times isn't.
I watch it for the plot.
That's why it's legal, it became a first amendment issue.
Can somebody please just link the boobs
She was actually fully clothed!
If you want to see her porn: https://www.pornhub.com/gif/36941951
Nice
🤣
People in this thread really pretending they have kids in order to get upset about implied nudity. It does not get more american does it? Some chick showing lots of boobie sure seems to be the same like a girl getting banged by big dick to many here.
Also if you actually think that some nudity will wreck your kid but watching gta does not i am not sure why anyone bothers arguing with you.
Manipulative, interactive sex workers are not the same as “nudity”.
It's just 4 comments in here that are complaining. It's not a lot. I think you're overreacting
I know of families who walk naked around the house. No kids under 10 were harmed by this. Nudity is natural. Reacting to it in an unhealthy manner is not.
Nudity is not strictly porn, but not all nudity is strictly harmless. Platforms like these are for clickbait and attention whoring, and there's no better way to get attention on the internet than sexual content (especially on a website mainly used by kids/teens).
And it's basically universally accepted that porn is harmful to children. We all watched some of it when we were young, but most people had circumstances that limited their exposure or access to it. A modern mainstream addiction machine like Twitch serving softcore porn to children under the guise of "artistic nudity" is going to fuck people up. That's not even mentioning the "cam whore" aspect to it, which does frequently fuck up the lives of fully grown adults.
What sites are parents supposed to allow their kids to access if rules like this start slipping in? Short of invasive AI scanning, it's not possible to monitor every single thing your child watches on a site at all times.
I am always so interested by these types of comments. Lots of words, no substance. HOW will this cause harm? Is it the nudity? Is it the platform specifically? Is Twitch now more harmfully addicting due to there now being nudity? Was access to Twitch not harmful, or was harmful, before? In excess? In moderation?
Give us something if you're going to be throwing verbal hands. I neither agree nor disagree with this decision by Twitch, mostly because I honestly dgaf and strongly feel parents have a responsibility to learn how to limit access if it is needed. Having worked with parents a LOT, many of them are happy to shove responsibility for their children onto others, while simultaneously making outrageous demands and incredible accusations. I don't see why this situation should be any different.
i think the problem a lot of people (myself included) have specifically with nudity on twitch is with the streamers whose streams are basically just porn. now there's nothing inherently wrong with porn, nudity, or sex work on the internet or in real life, but the issue comes in when you put people who are essentially sex workers on the same video game streaming site many young people visit for non-sexual content. now porn is available and popular on their favorite game streaming site, and it is being forcibly recommended to users who have never browsed that category of content on twitch before.
pretty much all i watch on twitch is super mario 64 speedruns, but 9/10 times when i log in my first recommended channel is a streamer with their tits out doing jumping jacks in a hot tub or something. i can only imagine this is happening to a large percentage of other users as well, including younger users who could be easily manipulated by an attractive and interactive woman online heavily incentivizing them to donate money.
it basically boils down to: i don't care that porn is on the site, but it should not be recommended to people who are not already browsing that content as that is not what i'm there to see.
edit - re-reading the changes, i'm hoping that the stream visibility and content label changes would fix this issue.
This is essentially how I see it also.
The changes over the years allowing non-gaming content have allowed some really cool stuff to be showcased, but it also opened the floodgates for a lot of low effort softcore camgirls. I'm cool with sex workers making a living, but it would be nice to filter them out. Twitch has done a lot of work on discovery over the past year or two that's been positive at least even if the site is awful when not logged in.
I think the impact of these changes will really depend on the how Twitch chooses to allow monetization. Given the changes to aggressive ad-focused monetization recently I think that will be the big decider for what this means.
Unfiltered visibility of things is usually my problem and concern for my kids on video platforms.
Thanks for the measured response! I can agree with this. There is inherently nothing wrong with nudity or sex in general. In fact a healthy relationship with nudity and sex likely supports good development. I don't need to go much further to support this argument than to point out the myriads of people damaged from strict religious upbringings. That said, it does need to be filtered and enforced properly. Buried even where it had to be actually found, or specific settings activated that are otherwise automatically turned off.
I think if these and/or similar steps were done many of us wouldn't be bothered.
What universe do you live in where thats accepted knowledge? Cause its not the real one, thats a pretty frequently debated topic.
https://acpeds.org/position-statements/the-impact-of-pornography-on-children
https://aifs.gov.au/research/research-snapshots/effects-pornography-children-and-young-people
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8534324/
Here's a study showing the opposite, and linking to many others as well.
In other words, it's far from 'universally accepted'
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6088458/
From your own link:
Seems that your own study you posted acknowledges that porn with adolescents, mainly with adolescent males, is generally accepted and understood with their negative links.
Yes, I tried to link a reasonably balanced view of the issue. It'd be nice if you didn't cherry pick statements. The point being, different studies have shown different results, and there's no concrete conclusion to date. Hence your statement about 'universal acceptance' is extremely debatable.
So you accuse someone of cherrypicking while admitting you cherrypicked yourself (which I should discard because your opinion of balanced is right and his of general consensus is wrong, obviously...)? Personally, I see a big difference between proper sexual education and children beginning to explore puberty with parental guidance and streamers drawing porn for money and exposure to sexuality becoming a circlejerk to personality cults.
Balanced in the sense that I acknowledged there's an ongoing debate and linked a source that covered both sides, unlike a certain someone who claimed 'universal acceptance' of their worldview. Hopefully you can see a difference there.
The last sentence of your quote literally says that there is no actual conclusive data from this, and any links need further study to be considered real and actionable.
You didnt even cherry pick this correctly
I would like to learn more on a sentence you casually dropped
It would be interesting to read some studies and what is the definition of “children”.
In other word I think that assertion is undebatable for a 6 year old… but what about a 14yo? And a 17yo?
That's why I don't monitor it. If I don't trust my kids on a site, I ban it so they get no access to it whatsoever. If I trust them, I don't have any restrictions on the content they can access on it.
For example, I trust Netflix's kids mode, but my kids can easily switch to my profile and see stuff they shouldn't. I trust them to only watch on their profile, and if they violate that, they lose access to Netflix entirely. Adult content doesn't appear on their home page, and it doesn't even appear on my home page (as in, the trailers usually don't have the intense parts).
I feel like if I restrict it, they'll be more curious about what they're missing, whereas teaching them to avoid stuff in their own teaches discipline and builds trust
Source, please?
https://acpeds.org/position-statements/the-impact-of-pornography-on-children
https://aifs.gov.au/research/research-snapshots/effects-pornography-children-and-young-people
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8534324/
Here's a study showing the opposite, and linking to many others as well.
In other words, it's far from 'universally accepted'
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6088458/
Again, from your own link:
Yes, I tried to link a reasonably balanced view of the issue. It’d be nice if you didn’t cherry pick statements. The point being, different studies have shown different results, and there’s no concrete conclusion to date. Hence your statement about ‘universal acceptance’ is extremely debatable.
What do you think this means?
WON'T SOMEONE THINK OF THE CHILDREN!!!!
Every single time, anything and everything....
You must realise no one buys it, right? Like you know everyone sees straight through your pearl clutching?
Are you implying those streams are not gonna be overrun with incels sending hundreds of dollars in donations to get sent some nail clippings?
Man you need to hang out someplace that isnt 4chan
I'm surprised how much pearl clutching there is in this thread. This seems like a good thing. It's all supposed to be clearly labeled, and if people want to watch streams with nudity, what's wrong with that?
The twitch boob meta always fascinated me. It's literally trivial to not watch thirst streams if you don't like thirst streams. But people on the internet get so fucking upset about it, and I assume at least 100% of them consume actual porn.
For me it's how popular and accessible twitch is for kids.
I've never really used twitch for anything except getting drops for games (160p and muted lol) but every time I see titty streamers getting recommended despite never watching any
Everything on the internet is easily accessible by kids if the parents aren't doing any supervision.
It’s not the same, porn you have to search out. They’re already on twitch for other reasons and are far more likely to be suggested/shown more vulgar content like “artistic nudity”.
If they can google search for twitch, they can google search for porn. They already know. I mean, come on, you were 14 once.
If they cant google search for twitch, then they shouldnt be able to change the channel to boobie streams for the same reason they shouldnt be able to change to any other non-kid-friendly stream. Thats part of being responsible as a parent.
I dunno, this doesnt seem like that big of a deal.
This is the double standard I hate so much about violence / porn / swearing.
Kids are watching ultra violent game streams? No one gives a shit.
The second a bad word has been said on a stream or a bit of nudity is shown, people are losing their god damn minds.
Short explanation of part of my issue with it:
There's a big, important difference between watching violence in video games/movies and watching a cartel execution or someone being run over on LiveLeak.
There's also a significant difference between "a bit of nudity", even contextually appropriate full frontal, and eroticism.
You mean, as opposed to the notoriously unpopular and inaccessible PornHub (among hundreds of others)?
If my child is on twitch, I can reasonably assume it's for game streaming. If my child is on pornhub, I can assume they are watching pornography. I dont like having that line blurred.
It’s not the same, how many children are going to pornhub to watch video games and happens to see and click on a recommended stream for actual porn?
Your false dichotomy does not hold up.
Yep. It's a lot easier to block Pornhub than it is to block porn on Twitch but leave the rest of Twitch unaffected.
twitch could block mature content behind an account, and only if that account is +18
I was thinking more from a parent's point of view. It's a lot easier to block a whole website than parts of a website.
Personally, as long as kids are getting access to good sex ed I don't see any issue with them stumbling across sexualized content online. We all did it at some point in our lives, digital or not. It's a part of growing up. I also don't think sexualized content should be seen as more problematic than violent content. If anything it should be less problematic (and to be clear I don't find either to be an issue personally)
i have bad news for most of the US for you
That's definitely something to improve, but hiding sex from online spaces is not going to help.
Oh, sure, we probably agree. A distressing amount of people have really bad takes on sex, sex education, gender, history, relationships.. a lot of things, really. Conservatives especially have egregiously bad views.
I remember when I first saw This Film Is Not Yet Rated, and I talked about it with some coworkers. An older woman and a younger woman who sat next to me in the office. Both of them 100% felt that they'd rather their kid watch a movie where people's heads got blown off than one where someone got head. I don't remember their exact argument (this was many years ago), but I'm pretty sure it was such an axiomatic belief for them it was difficult to articulate why.
Yeah, America really got fucked up by the puritans. That prudishness still runs deep. I'm philosophically very sex positive, but I get it, and I'm not immune to that shock factor either sometimes. I try my best to disregard it.
parents don't have a role in there too?
I'm not sure what you mean. Parents are ideally involved in raising their children, but there's no guarantee they'll be involved, good at teaching, teaching anything true, alive, or anything. Public education is important.
The women in Twitch use sex and interactive false sexual interest and love to get people to give them money and buy them gifts. In some ways that’s worse for kids than pornhub porn. Do you expect a 15 year old boy to be able to avoid the “stripper really loves me” trap?
Then it sounds like your actual problem is with a certain pattern of behavior rather than nudity/sexuality itself. So maybe you address your actual concern rather than something tangentially related.
While porn sites are well protected behind a question. Ultimately it's up to parents to monitor their kids media consumption.
As if I wouldn't know how to block domains and IPs on my router
most parent don't even know that the router can be configured, how could they block IP
Yeah I guess I don't really give a shit what other people's kids do
You may want to. You will eventually be interacting with them. Or your kids will.
I am not responsible for ridding the world of maladjusted assholes. I simply do not have the energy.
If there is no other imperative for caring about something beyond "but what about the poorly supervised children?" then that thing is generally going straight to the bottom of my concern list. If the worst thing that poorly supervised children get into is cleavage on twitch, then I'd actually call that a pretty massive win.
How will 14 year olds accidentally seeing a boob on twitch instead of doing what most 14 year olds do by actively searching out porn-esque content going to turn them into a person I dont want to interact with?
Yup, I'm not letting my kids on Twitch because of that.
I hate kiddie accounts, so if I don't trust my kid to browse a service safely, I ban it. As they gain my trust, I open up the services I allow. For example, I used to have a "no YouTube" rule, now I let my oldest (10yo) to browse on his own, provided he tells me what he wants to watch. If I catch him watching something he knows I don't approve of, he'll lose that privilege until he regains that trust.
Twitch will take a while.
The problem, at least to me, is the wildly inconsistent application of the rules. Plenty of streamers have gotten bans for inappropriate content for far, far less than this, and been told to shove it when they tried to appeal. I can guarantee you nobody would be up in arms over this if twitch just treated it as a free for all, and didn't care if people streamed tits. The problem is that it isn't, and lots of people get banned, while the big thirst streamers get given a free pass on everything
Also, If this goes through, the "banned games" list is going to need some real pruning.
Yeah on porn sites.
My only problem with it is that it's always on the homepage under recommended, despite the fact I've never watched any streams like that. Even if I tell the site "not interested" it still shows the content. I only get on twitch to watch content for one game and from a small number of creators.
It destroys the brand. The more nudity makes it on the site the more it changes the user base, advertisers change, the whole thing just takes a turn into something completely different
Eh the site was always shit anyways. 🤷
I don't think people object to it from a moral standpoint, but more from the perspective that it will overtake the content that they want to see.
Gamers mad at women and attractiveness. This is a really hard combo for them.
Nothing new.
This is what got me: Now you can have tits out and twerking, but no longer smoking?
Edit: I personally don't use Twitch nor mind it when nudity becomes more normalised, but as I said in my other comment it's mostly about weed or just smoking a cigarette while doing something else.
Makes sense. Normalizing smoking isn't cool. It's one thing if it's in a movie or TV show, but Twitch has the pretense of being real people who can have parasocial relationships with their fans and influence their behavior. Kids don't need to see or be influenced on that level. At least the nudity or sexuality will be properly labelled.
Personally I was thinking about weed; there's a large community surrounding it and ever since parts of the US started legalising a lot of discussion around it has been popping up.
For example a stream discussing and reviewing different strains could definitely work.
I'd actually watch some streamers if they did it like Getting Doug With High
Doug the pepper man? Because thats one streamer I wouldnt watch get high, his content is too thought heavy and directed and getting intoxicated would derail the hell out of that
Getting Doug With High is a podcast by Doug Benson where he invites other celebrities to hangout and get high with him. It's pretty entertaining most of the time.
The first Eric Andre one is really good imo. Eric said he doesn't usually smoke because he had a bad experience when he was younger, but in the episode he gets super baked and asks a random person in the studio for a hoodie, and then he just spends the rest of the time all cozied up in someone's sweater. It's pretty great.
Smoking kills people.
I don't think that's what it's saying given that "sexual themes" is on this list as well. Seems more like they're saying "we're allowing more sexual content if it's properly labeled, but we're going to start keeping those labels off the home page, and while we're at it we'll take off a bunch of other objectionable content"
Nothing wrong with streaming nudity, but Twitch is specifically marketed to children for the purpose of watching people play video games. Blending porn in that with an algorithm that throws new videos in your face is a recipe for disaster.
Your "supposed to be clearly labeled" argument is really doing a lot of the heavy lifting here and ignores the reality of people gaming the system or finding loopholes and we all know there aren't going to be any real people moderating the site just like every other social media/video streaming site.
They really should have split it up into two different sites because I see this blowing up in their face spectacularly.
I’ve never once seen these girls on my twitch feed. Also, adult channels would obviously be excluded from children’s feed if they’re set up with parental settings.
Also, anyone who has access to the internet has access to porn if they seek it out.
“Think of the children” is such a boring argument. Grumpy old conservatives said the same thing about music videos in the 80s. Now we’ve got incels raging over naked people on the internet.
To be honest, you're making a lot more wild assumptions in this comment than anything I said.
If you're right, then maybe the system will need some improvements. But it's all just speculation your part, so I don't see any reason to worry about it for something so inconsequential to begin with.
I wonder how many non-nsfw streamers are rejoicing because they no longer have to be paranoid about modded games and nudity. Prior to twitch relaxing rules regarding nudity, you could get banned for a split second of nudity in a modded game, and official nudity/sex scenes in M-rated games were playing with fire (technically allowed, but up to an admin's discretion if you were trying to "stream porn" or just playing the game as intended). At least I'm assuming these new rules will include further relaxing the game content rules. It wouldn't make sense to allow full "artistic nudity" if you're still banning streamers because of a few frames of modded tiddy.
The term for non-NSFW is SFW.
Automated ATM machine
Chai tea
I remember watching a streamer do a nudist run in. CK2 or CK3 (forget which), and they were super nervous about what might show up on screen on accident.
Imo, that's just ridiculous, so I'm glad they have relaxed the rules a bit. That said, I'm also sad that Twitch is courting so much non-gaming content, they really should just have that under a different brand. Maybe labels will help, but I really don't want to have to wade through so much non-gaming stuff to find a new streamer to watch.
Probably in the single digits since at this point nobody actually expects twitch to treat the rules as if they evenly apply to everyone
The only thing that really bothers me is that the porn get shoved on the front page.
I wanna open Twitch on my living room TV to watch SC2 and tiveux something is painting her tits on my screen already.
From what I understand, this change will disallow any stream with these tags showing up on the front page. Though, I believe this will still be at the top of the "just chatting" category, so really it's the same problem.
This for me is the main issue
Twitch in 2 weeks : video games? Where?
I mean hot tub streams already exist.
Twitch hasn’t been a “games only” site in a long time.
Didn't they ban them?
I’m actually not sure, I thought they might have moved them to a different NSFW category than “Just Chatting”. I know a streamer I follow was able to have an onsen stream when travelling in Japan and he didn’t get banned.
They were quarantined to the 'pools and hot tubs' category, which presumably modifies what kind of ads run on them.
Yall know there's free porn on the internet right?
I think a large part of it is the parasocial aspect. People get to know streamers (or at least, the streamer’s persona) and form attachments to them over time. The same way someone wants to see how their favorite character’s arc plays out in a show, people want to watch streamers because they feel a personal connection to them.
Even though that connection is almost certainly one-sided, (except maybe for smaller streamers who actually interact with all of their viewers on a regular basis,) it doesn’t stop the viewers from forming those emotional connections. And that somehow makes them more “real” than some random piece of ass on pornhub.
I think a lot of it stems from loneliness, and wanting a personal connection. Pornhub is great for porn, but it’s undeniably commercialized porn. Lots of people will likely end up viewing nude twitch streams the same way they’d view nudes from a significant other. Even if the quality isn’t as good as pornhub, it may be considered more desirable simply because the viewers feel like they know the person.
That is what has always boggled my mind about all this softcore stuff, like why are you on twitch with your dick out anyway? If you want to jerk off why not just do it properly lol
People listen to music without dancing, it's the same thing - it activates pleasurable parts of your brain which trigger various biochemical responces. I normally work with video essays on in the background but when things get complex and stressful I switch to hot people dancing or similar, trying to juggle a dozen variables and get all the code loops right can be mentally taxing so when my brain in churning over my options it can be good to have a nice juicy butt to rest my eyes on, watch sway and pop and grind... It's not going to interrupt my train of thought but it holds it.
Also something that no one seems to consider possible but there are some really interesting and funny women that enjoy showing off their body, the music is often great and the atmosphere fun and light hearted - the notion that because it's sexy it can only be low tier, base and worthless is just puritan nonsense, it's good content.
And no you don't have to jerk off the second you see a sexy butt, I think that way of thinking might be more puritan baggage. You can just feel good about seeing sexy bodies gyrate.
And now some of that free porn will be on Twitch.
Five years from now, Amazon launches its first premium-only porn site (and then five years more down the road, it will absorb and replace Twitch)
Considering how similar the audience interactions work, I could see Amazon buying OnlyFans and integrating it into Twitch.
then Apple buys it and rebrands it iFap
Or Elon does and rebrands it XXX.
Vin Diesel sues... with his family
There's also Internet allow only firewalls specially designed for parents who want to implement some control, which isn't enough when content on platforms decide to saturate their content with that you don't want to expose your children to. Then, it just becomes an exponential game of having to keep up and adjust each platform's individual controls when they could have simply kept their adult content elsewhere and have it be easily accessible to any adult who wants to see it.
If you let your kid on twitch, porn is the least of your problems
Pretty sure twitch is supposed to only be for all 16 plus anyway right I'm sure that's somewhere in their terms of service that you can't have an account of your underage.
https://safety.twitch.tv/s/article/Guide-Parents-Educators?language=en_US
Yea, sure, Twitch
They were just tired of fielding questions of why the camgirls were exempt from the rules everyone else was following. Now it's because it's "artistic".
So if I paint my cock I'm good, right?
It needs to be visible...
So using the cock as the brush is the way to go, got it
Art nudity. So creating art with your nudity.
Yeah, get that paint out of here!
Viral topless "meta"??? I haven't heard about any topless meta. What have I been missing? The article only references a single instance in which a streamer got banned, and that hardly makes a meta. What has the Twitch streamer community response been?
there is a lot of afaik mostly female streamers, where the game content is secondary to them always being dressed and acting sexualized.
Heck, I'd say if they are actually playing a game and streaming it, then that's legit... but I can tell you that I've seen a lot of "stretching" and "exercise" streams where it's basically just strategic shots of a girl's arse. As in, that is genuinely the purpose of the stream. There is no actual exercise happening. Some streamers even have "!phub" in their description, suggesting users type that for more info about the streamer... And the ASMR category seems to be a 25-75 split between people actually trying to do ASMR, and people doing a kind of soft-core porn show.
The worst thing is that if you watch one of those streams, for curiosity, or if you were just in the mood for it, Twitch then makes your recommendations look like a porn site for the next couple of months. (I'm not against porn; but I definitely don't want to be getting porn recommendations when I go to twitch.)
Death to the algorithm
You can watch in a private session and it won't affect your front page, I do this if I ever want to watch a video containing an idiot like Joe Rogan or something who'll get me flooded with right wing junk.
A quarter of the way into the 21st century and we're still not sure if a website can be profitable if there's boobs.
This timeline is dumb as hell.
Nah, they are. Problem is banks. Bunch of weird prudes, and they effectively run the world.
Bankers famously HATE boobs.
People looking for that tend to be the ones most likely to throw money at strangers. Oldest profession continues to be the most predictable among its clientele.
Twitch was good when it was video games only, it really went downhill since Amazon bought it.
"[service] really went downhill since [tech conglomerate] bought it" could be a Mad Lib.
I’ll take “buy out directly leading to enshittification” for 500, Alex
It was never video games only. My first introduction to Justin.tv was the fact that it had 24/7 Seinfeld streams.
It's fine lol, except they are way too aggressive on ads
You’ve got the history backwards. Twitch is just a spin-off of Justin.tv, rebranded.
What a time to be a cam girl
Do they plan to rename Twitch to Jerk?
Twitch -> Twerk <- Jerk
TWork, just so you can tell everybody you're going to twork
man i said this a while ago and its only gotten worse since then
Finally Jerma can show nipples and toes on stream
he's already shown one of those things repeatedly (2)
Here is an alternative Piped link(s):
he's already shown one of those things repeatedly
2
Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube.
I'm open-source; check me out at GitHub.
Glad someone is keeping track o7
Nice. The porn streaming wars have begun.
Already furries are live streaming drawing giant cocks lmao
some horny c**t will crop that
caat
That explains why cats can be dicks.
I'm just happy they will now allow some games that weren't allowed for sexual themes before.
Getting ready for GTA 6 I see
I’m kinda surprised there’s no NSFW version of Twitch tbh, I’d imagine it would be the easiest pile of money if they could capitalize on how much porn these Twitch gals are doing as a separate brand or something.
EDIT: Should clarify, I meant an Amazon-owned NSFW Twitch using Twitch branding. I know cam sites exist and also got lucky on Omegle a few times.
Cam girl sites have been around for decades now..
But then the streamers would have to compete with thousands of other actual sex workers. Making it harder to stand out.
Exactly. The twitch thot meta is entirely successful because they don't have to compete with people posting actual porn, and that they aren't posting on a porn site such that it's less likely to be restricted, and gets full publicity
I think it has to do with the fact that some investors, payment providers and banks refuse to associate with anything that could be seen as sex work. That was why even OnlyFans was about to ban sexually explicit content 2 years ago.
Twitch: After Dark
Sexy Twitch
Isn’t that just kinda cam sites though?
Yes, the clearest way would be to launch a separate “Twitch 18+” or smg, offer integration of accounts for users and content creators, and go ahead. But they don’t actually want to do that, they want to blur the line, capitalize on the thirst of the audiance, without fully committing to the idea for PR reasons.
These comments are wild and mostly sexist as fuck.
If you have kids and you give them complete unfettered access to the web I'm sure they have seen more than a boob. If that bothers you perhaps try being a parent. Maybe getting involved with your child's online activity. Maybe don't use the Internet as a fucking babysitter.
Hell if you want to use the internet as a babysitter all you have to do is install one of the many commercially available parental control blockers. Obviously it would be better to actually be engaged in a child's life, but if that's not an option for you then there is software that can help.
I have absolutely no idea how effective it is of course but I'm sure there are reviews online.
Awful idea. I had a friend with helicopter parents that did this, and it honestly sucked for the both of us because of how much was blocked.
I absolutely agree. I'm a parent and I'll never install a content filter. Ever.
I prefer to operate on trust. My kids tell me what they want to look at, I agree to it, then I unlock the computer to they can access it. If they access anything else, they lose that privilege until I'm confident they've learned their lesson and we try again. Rinse and repeat.
Trust is earned, and I hope by the time they're old enough to be interested in boobs, they'll value that trust. That worked reasonably well for me.
With a content filter, you're immediately telling the child you don't trust them, so they're going to circumvent it, or just use their friend's computer. I'd much rather they look at porn on my computer than their friend's, because I can find out about it if it's on my computer, whereas I can't if it's at a friend's house. And if they're interested in porn, that probably means they're interested in sex, which means we need to discuss it to build that trust before they go out and have unprotected sex. If they're watching overly violent stuff or whatever, they're probably talking about that kind of thing with friends and I may need to be careful about who I let them spend time with (or notify the other kids' parents). And so on.
Content filters hide the problem, I'd much rather confront it head on.
Twitch is rated 14 and up so parental controls won't really block it on its own. Unless you have the child listed under 14
Twitches rating on andriod play is 14 amd up. Woth nudity now allowed it should be 18 and up.
I'm confused, what does "meta" mean in this context?
It basically means trend. It's sorta evolved from the concept of "metagaming" where you're not just playing the game, you're gaming the game. People now use "the meta" to refer to the collection of viable strategies for a game, and "the current meta" to refer to what is popular at this moment. This could be types of decks in a card game, character builds in an MMO or a MOBA, or other things like that. Presumably, for twitch, "the meta" is referring to not strategies of playing games, but strategies of gaming twitch. In other words, strategies to maximize viewership and income, and specifically, what is working at any given time.
Slap this right into Urban Dictionary. Great explainer.
This is also what metadata is. Data about data. Not whats inside a file, but the files name, date it was created, created by whom, accessed when, etc. You can also have metadata about metadata, which itself is just metadata.
Its data all the way down.
lol and I understood the meta part but have no clue what the viral topless part means.
There are many top streams that are just women with just the nipples covered writing donors names on their body
oh haha. well that does sound viral, but how was that not banned? don't people get their streams removed for stuff like that? I gotta be honest, I hate twitch lol so I have no idea about any of it.
I've seen some people debate whether "meta" means "applying a concept to itself" or "most effective tactic available". In gaming, both kind of make sense. But in the context of business models for twitch streams, only the second definition works. (even though it originated from the word "metagame", where "meta" wasn't an acronym)
Mm, I think the first also works. Because the meta of twitch requires a shift in thinking from "I am doing a thing, that happens to be on the platform twitch" into "how does the platform of twitch work as a platform, and what actions can I take to manipulate the platform to do what I want it to do."
Shifts of not only content you like to make -> content that gets max views, but also making content when its convenient -> make content during specific peak hours, etc.
Idiots following a trend to get more money, at least regarding social media
They're really going all in on this
Doesn't this pretty clearly allow Vtubers to get as horny as they want? Their avatars are all fictionalized, but that feels like it's going really far over the line of what Twitch used to be.
They might as well just rebrand into a cam girl site at this point.
OnlyTwitch
How do I apply for this job to determine who is an artist and who isn't? I have years of experience. 🤵♂️
Nobody is not an artist
Decorative urns. If it has an urn in the background then it's art.
It might be a stupid answer but it solves the ambiguity for them.
Yay! Boobies!
Are we now going get topless women playing games? I remember early days of YouTube there was a chick who had a topless cooking show.
I watch it.
I've always heard that twitch is full of softcore was because it was not blocked in various jurisdictions (schools, countries, whatever) that otherwise block porn. I guess this will be a way to test that. If twitch is blocked at the same level as chaturbate, will softcore on twitch be as profitable?
I don't think that's true really, it's popular because softcore has always been popular and twitch is a great platform for moderated chat interaction and community.
Twitch has been downhill since Justin.tv shut down. Nothing they do surprises me anymore.
And this came right after they banned el_xox, a vtuber, indefinitely for "nudity", though the model they used was just zoomed in so you just couldn't see below the shoulders, instead of actually being naked.
Seems they got unbanned though, but good on twitch to put their more out less already unwritten simp-streamer rules in writing.
Just make an adults tab and be done with it
The twitch topless meta is just lofi burlesque to chill/study to
Here we go again. Cue the inflatable pools.
Does that mean I can finally stream HuniePop on there now?
What, you think the dunces that run twitch are actually going to bother updating the banned game list? We all know that the only reason they changed the rules is to avoid punishing the streamers they've shown brazen favoratism towards for years.
Yes all we brainworms know this
Simpyness intensifies!!!!!
Gotta compete with kick
Sorry.... What category to choose for grinding a dildo on my fanny?? Or is Retro fine as long as I add a label?
No, retro is for those old school upskirts. You know the ones; where this curly haired blond girl is all "eeek!" on a really small stool and the camera is looking right up the skirt.
If they’d just actually manage the endless copy spam channels in some categories that make browsing a chore, that would actually be an improvement. And the underage kids that suddenly show up. All they need is a couple of people dedicated to monitoring and banhammering a few particular categories and it would be mostly taken care of.
edit: hey, at least there’s this
bottom part: “Streams labeled as including Mature-rated Games and Profanity will not be affected by this update unless the streamer has also selected one of the labels bolded above.”
But Yandere Sim is still banned.
Sheeesh. Depressing state of affairs..
The fuck is a meta?
Whatever the specific community currently agrees is the best method for success, like strategies for video games, gimmicks for social media, etc.
"most effective tactic available"
This has never been correct, it isn't an acronym, it's a prefix. Metagaming is the art of learning how players typically play a game and has been a concept for a long time. The etymology is simple, the greek "Meta-" meaning beyond and "metagame" referring to the way people play a game developing alongside a game. Look at dota 2, the metagame shifts in large ways when the map does not relatively frequently. When we talk about metagaming in card games, it's in reference to which cards see the most play regardless of their impact on the game.
Sure but it's still a pretty apt description and acronyms are fun
Cool, more booba
So... If I'm commissioned to draw furry smut, does that mean I can stream that to Twitch now?
Sounds like artistic nudity to me
I'm troubled by the term "artistic". Who on earth is deciding what is and isn't art?
Seems like an ethical quagmire that's not really worth their time to be wading into, but they seem to be doing so. Perhaps they haven't thought all the implications through.
I do not understand why they don't straight up just make a 18 plus tab and be done with it. Why do they seem to have this moral objection to how they make money? After all I am damn sure the shareholders won't care.
Hmm... I think what determines nudity to be artistic instead of porn is the presence of urns. Yes, if there's an urn you can immediately tell it's intended artistically.
Isn't the main issue not so much what they will show, but what gets monetized or not? There is always going to be a disconnect with this stuff because twitch wants the content that goes viral to be advertiser friendly.
Videogames?
As if there weren’t already enough simps.