This is quite the conundrum that the fediverse requires corporations like fastly/cachefly/cloudflare to stay afloat/responsive.
And quite the conundrum that the electricity they used is often owned and operated by oppressive governments
You can play this game with everything, we do what we can with what we have.
Sure, it'd be great to have a community based on open source and operated electricity, to prevent the harms that may come from centralized control, but sometimes things just aren't feasible, and we may not even want to make them that way.
We can incorporate the benefits of cloudflare while using our control of the platform to minimize the harm, we just haven't done it yet.
Having an open and decentralized cloudflare solution just isn't feasible, due to what they provide.
While I'm all for decentralization, I don't really see a reasonable way around this. Someone has to manage the infrastructure, and at a certain scale that's going to be large corporations. However, as long as these services continue to be interchangeable and unlinked to the fediverse, I don't see this as too serious of an issue.
@scarecrw@hedge@useful_idiot This, as long as you are not vendor locked it's fine. I use cloudflare, but I'd have no problems migrating to a different provider tomorrow
This is true, It is much safer to rely on providers at the protocol layer vs the application layer.
Not to mention the companies that own the backbone...?
This is quite the conundrum that the fediverse requires corporations like fastly/cachefly/cloudflare to stay afloat/responsive.
And quite the conundrum that the electricity they used is often owned and operated by oppressive governments
You can play this game with everything, we do what we can with what we have.
Sure, it'd be great to have a community based on open source and operated electricity, to prevent the harms that may come from centralized control, but sometimes things just aren't feasible, and we may not even want to make them that way.
We can incorporate the benefits of cloudflare while using our control of the platform to minimize the harm, we just haven't done it yet.
Having an open and decentralized cloudflare solution just isn't feasible, due to what they provide.
While I'm all for decentralization, I don't really see a reasonable way around this. Someone has to manage the infrastructure, and at a certain scale that's going to be large corporations. However, as long as these services continue to be interchangeable and unlinked to the fediverse, I don't see this as too serious of an issue.
@scarecrw @hedge @useful_idiot This, as long as you are not vendor locked it's fine. I use cloudflare, but I'd have no problems migrating to a different provider tomorrow
This is true, It is much safer to rely on providers at the protocol layer vs the application layer.
Not to mention the companies that own the backbone...?