Oh I agree. Maybe not toxic per se, but extremely out of touch. I think what happened is it just became a bigger echo chamber, because from the already echo chamber reddit, all the people who are the type to switch to the fediverse (privacy focused, foss lovers) are on lemmy, with their opinions being spouted back at them, so it feels like everyone agrees, when really they're a minority.
The biggest differing opinion between reddit and lemmy that I see is lemmy's insistence that absolutely everyone should switch to linux. Of course I saw that on reddit a bit too, but it always had some pushback.
And of course there's also the ignorance of the fediverse's problems. Like people just can't comprehend why someone wouldn't switch to Mastodon or Lemmy.
This doesn't apply to all topics though. There is still some good discussion here. Sometimes it can be better than reddit.
What's weird is I don't experience this on hacker news. People seem to be a lot less out of touch, and have a wider variety of opinions. Not entirely sure why, maybe because it's had time to mature?
Yeah I kinda noticed this privacy/FOSS thing here, people commenting about software in question being proprietary or has cloud backup for example I have to double check what community I'm at, and 90% times it's not privacy or FOSS related, I was downvoted multiple times for making a mistake of mentioning proprietary software
I was getting absolutely mocked the other day in the linux gaming community suggesting people install Windows on their machine, rather than whining about counter strike 2 not running on their LinuxOS.
I hate to break it to you, but you're the person everyone else is talking about. You went into a special interest forum and more or less said "have you tried not caring about the subject?".
I hate to break it to you, but that is not at all what I said. People join that community to talk about gaming on Linux, myself included... not to piss and moan about not being able to game on Linux.
You are actually the kind of person i see people complaining about in this thread, getting extremely defensive and aggressive when someone has a different opinion to you/challenging your beliefs, thus echo chamber lol
I don't care about your opinions, use windows all you want. I just find it hard to believe that the person you replied to was really just whining, that nobody else appreciated or was interested in helping them, and so they were actually just pissing and moaning. Link the thread if you want someone to take your weird implied hostility in good faith. Otherwise, yes, my paraphrasing is as valid an interpretation of what you've relayed so far as any other. How does that skepticism and tone-matching equate to getting defensive over your disagreeing with me?
Generic venting without supplying any details or citations is a pretty aggressive and hostile message to send, why are you surprised it's met in kind?
I think you are in the wrong place to suggest that lmao
I see your point, but I fundamentally disagree; I think it's the perfect place to make such suggestions because it's a community where that approach may not be the first idea.
I also think it's the perfect place to make such suggestions because you're guaranteed to have different opinions and outlooks, thus generating productive conversation.. if everyone is mature and respectful which in this particular example they were not.
Did you at the very least suggest pirating Windows?
Because otherwise it'd be "Hey guys have you considered giving ~$100 to Bill Gates to play a free to play video game?
I don't think I need to explain to lemmy users how to bypass paying for Windows lol
That's the same problem as people recommending Linux when Windows acts up. Just let people use whatever OS they want.
You're paying a few bucks to ensure maximum compatibility for the games that you love to play, this isn't rocket science.
I wasn't telling anyone to do anything, I was merely making a rational suggestion that would completely solve their issue Jesus Christ you people are insane.
Oh I agree. Maybe not toxic per se, but extremely out of touch. I think what happened is it just became a bigger echo chamber, because from the already echo chamber reddit, all the people who are the type to switch to the fediverse (privacy focused, foss lovers) are on lemmy, with their opinions being spouted back at them, so it feels like everyone agrees, when really they're a minority.
The biggest differing opinion between reddit and lemmy that I see is lemmy's insistence that absolutely everyone should switch to linux. Of course I saw that on reddit a bit too, but it always had some pushback.
And of course there's also the ignorance of the fediverse's problems. Like people just can't comprehend why someone wouldn't switch to Mastodon or Lemmy.
This doesn't apply to all topics though. There is still some good discussion here. Sometimes it can be better than reddit.
What's weird is I don't experience this on hacker news. People seem to be a lot less out of touch, and have a wider variety of opinions. Not entirely sure why, maybe because it's had time to mature?
Yeah I kinda noticed this privacy/FOSS thing here, people commenting about software in question being proprietary or has cloud backup for example I have to double check what community I'm at, and 90% times it's not privacy or FOSS related, I was downvoted multiple times for making a mistake of mentioning proprietary software
I was getting absolutely mocked the other day in the linux gaming community suggesting people install Windows on their machine, rather than whining about counter strike 2 not running on their LinuxOS.
I hate to break it to you, but you're the person everyone else is talking about. You went into a special interest forum and more or less said "have you tried not caring about the subject?".
I hate to break it to you, but that is not at all what I said. People join that community to talk about gaming on Linux, myself included... not to piss and moan about not being able to game on Linux.
You are actually the kind of person i see people complaining about in this thread, getting extremely defensive and aggressive when someone has a different opinion to you/challenging your beliefs, thus echo chamber lol
I don't care about your opinions, use windows all you want. I just find it hard to believe that the person you replied to was really just whining, that nobody else appreciated or was interested in helping them, and so they were actually just pissing and moaning. Link the thread if you want someone to take your weird implied hostility in good faith. Otherwise, yes, my paraphrasing is as valid an interpretation of what you've relayed so far as any other. How does that skepticism and tone-matching equate to getting defensive over your disagreeing with me?
Generic venting without supplying any details or citations is a pretty aggressive and hostile message to send, why are you surprised it's met in kind?
I think you are in the wrong place to suggest that lmao
I see your point, but I fundamentally disagree; I think it's the perfect place to make such suggestions because it's a community where that approach may not be the first idea.
I also think it's the perfect place to make such suggestions because you're guaranteed to have different opinions and outlooks, thus generating productive conversation.. if everyone is mature and respectful which in this particular example they were not.
Did you at the very least suggest pirating Windows?
Because otherwise it'd be "Hey guys have you considered giving ~$100 to Bill Gates to play a free to play video game?
I don't think I need to explain to lemmy users how to bypass paying for Windows lol
That's the same problem as people recommending Linux when Windows acts up. Just let people use whatever OS they want.
You're paying a few bucks to ensure maximum compatibility for the games that you love to play, this isn't rocket science.
I wasn't telling anyone to do anything, I was merely making a rational suggestion that would completely solve their issue Jesus Christ you people are insane.