If ActivityPub can't survive Meta, it was never going to succeed in the first place

anthoniix@kbin.social to Fediverse@kbin.social – 120 points –

Corporations don't just sit out on new technologies, and no matter how hard you try you can't force them to. Defederating from Meta's new project preemptively is naive, and will not do much of anything.

Protocols are going to be adopted by corporations, whether we like it or not. SMTP, LDAP, HTTP, IP and 802.11 are all examples of that. If it ends up that meta is able to destroy the fediverse simply by joining it, that is a design flaw on OUR end. Something would then clearly need to be different in order to prevent future abuse of the protocol.

FOSS is propped up by corporations. By for profit corporations. If you want to stop those corporations from killing projects, you put safety guards up to make sure that doesn't happen. You don't just shut them out and put your head in the sand.

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"If your body can't survive toxic poison, it was never going to survive in the first place"

We should not be federating with Meta or any other corporate poison factories in the first place.

This is not a good comparison. Our bodies are not engineered by anyone, but our software is.

i fail to see why that matters?

You can try to engineer something to be resistant to certain threats, but the human body isn't like that.

With the human body comparison, you can't do much but react to what's happening to you and try to fix it or prevent it from happening in the first place in another human body.

With software, you specifically choose almost every aspect of how it's going to work. This allows you to construct it in certain ways that make it resistant to certain threats and modify it as needed.

OK, I accept your explanation and how you specifically referred to 'ActivityPub'.