Evidence of Israel's unlawful use of white phosphorus in southern Lebanon as cross-border hostilities escalate

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The Israeli army fired artillery shells containing white phosphorus, an incendiary weapon, in military operations along Lebanon’s southern border between 10 and 16 October 2023.

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Israel is at war. Collective punishment is no longer a relevant claim. They have declared war on the government of Palestine, Hamas. They are no longer in competition and are no longer attempting to use these controls to prevent violence. There is nothing illegal or genocidal about it right now while they conduct literal war.

Israel is at war. Collective punishment is no longer a relevant claim.

Geneva Conventions is literally the treaty meant for oversee war and prevent war crime. You're speaking out from your ass again.

Cite from it then. You didn't mention it before. Genocide is defined in far more than just the multiple Geneva conventions and so far no one has shown an understanding of it. Cite from it.

No, i already cite mine on another comment, YOU cite your source for your claim first. If you said it isn't genocide, then cite your source to counter mine instead of talking from your ass, like genocide-denial always do.

The burden of proof is on the claim maker. Kindly prove that you are not a robot made by fairies in Mordor if you think the burden of proof is otherwise.

The burden of proof is on the claim maker.

You claimed this:

Israel is at war. Collective punishment is no longer a relevant claim.

Now cite your source.

You want me to cite a source that says that you are allowed to conduct collateral damage and attack supply lines while at war? That burden of proof is still on you. Nothing in the Geneva Conventions forbids it.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.un.org/en/genocideprevention/documents/atrocity-crimes/Doc.34_AP-I-EN.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwi524K1oqWCAxU5lGoFHcJQCt0QFnoECDYQAQ&usg=AOvVaw2_QT30xBqnzFxMi476FkEu

You:

Israel is at war. Collective punishment is no longer a relevant claim.

Also you:

You want me to cite a source that says that you are allowed to conduct collateral damage and attack supply lines while at war?

Be sure not to hurt your back moving goal post like that.

Also:

Article 75 — Fundamental guarantees

  1. The following acts are and shall remain prohibited at any time and in any place whatsoever, whether committed by civilian or by military agents:

a) violence to the life, health, or physical or mental well-being of persons, in particular:

i) murder;

d) collective punishments;

Maybe go eat a sandwich or something, i'm done with your tantrum.

Collateral damage is not collective punishment.

Collateral damage is acceptable when targeting legal targets.

Targets are only legal in a time of war.

Something tells me you don't do this for a living.

you're right, i'm not being a troll for a living.

What's more likely, Israel is a nation state troll with multiple western security apparatuses in support or there's at least a scheme of logic that people who actually look at the data can look at?

It's funny because everyone I know that is liberal and left who work in national security break with the rest of their demographic and you see it in the Democratic party establishment as well. I've never seen a more clear line between experts who work on the space and those that do not.