Can a socialist ex-marine fill Joe Manchin’s seat in West Virginia?
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Zach Shrewsbury faces an improbable task to replace the conservative Democrat in the face of a Republican onslaught – but he won’t be put off
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Really? Up until now, every time a centrist is protected by the party, we're told that it's because progressives can't win. Every time a centrist loses, it's because progressives stay home.
If the test seems silly or unfair now, it was silly and unfair when centrists were using it, and you had no complaints then.
I don't recall ever agreeing with an argument this silly but you seem fairly confident I had no complaints about it.
If you've never noticed it, you haven't been paying attention for the past 8 years.
You misunderstand me. I am saying I never agreed with it.
Though, honestly, there is something very refreshing about someone who is willing to propose something (a nonsense test) and then declare that it is the exact same as another test with which they disagree.
Either this test was nonsense and proved nothing when the mean ol' centrists were doing it and still means absolutely nothing when you declare it or that the centrists have been correct all this time and you get to be correct once too. Either way, it's silly but kind of adorable in that childish way.
Edit: Also, I know it might be inconceivable to you but I've actually been paying attention to politics for longer than 8 years. I know, before trump made it cool. Weird huh?
Hey, if you want to deny that centrists have been both declaring that progressives can't win in red states and also blaming progressives when centrists lose, it's fine that you want to deny the lived experience of every progressive. Gaslighting and condescension are what centrists fall back on every time they're wrong, after all.
Where did I deny it?
All I'm saying is that it's adorable that you hate this narrative until you find an occasion that suits you, at which point, oh obviously this narrative is true.
So, either the centrists have been correct all this time or you are just excited to have a chance to spout the same nonsense. Either way, not really a position worth taking seriously.
It was true enough for centrists to beat progressives over the head with ever since centrists' candidate lost to centrists' second choice in 2016. It stops being true the instant a progressive says it to a centrist. Unsurprising how that conveniently works.
It's like talking to a brick wall.
So, either the centrists have been correct all this time or you are just excited to have a chance to spout the same nonsense. Either way, not really a position worth taking seriously.
I've got better things to do with my time. Have a good day!
Vote blue no matter who, unless that's suddenly horseshit because centrists don't wanna.
Okay, I have to admit I'm still curious.
Is the proposition you outline horseshit, as it was when the centrists used it? Or is it reasonable and thus the centrists were correct?
It's gospel until the instant it inconveniences centrists. Then it's immediately horseshit.
Again, do you think it's true now and was true before? Or were you spouting horseshit as well?
I answered your question. You don't like the answer, so you're going to ignore it and repeat the question.
I will point out any further gaslighting, condescension, and abuse, but I will no longer engage your arguments. You have shown that you are not arguing in good faith, and I will no longer participate on your terms.