TIME.com's 10 Best Video Games of 2023

Games@lemmy.world – 61 points – 7 months ago

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10. Dredge
9. Diablo IV
8. Star Wars Jedi: Survivor
7. Super Mario Bros. Wonder
6. Dead Space (Remake)
5. Resident Evil 4 (Remake)
4. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom
3. Spider-Man 2
2. Baldur’s Gate 3
1. Alan Wake II

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Why are two remakes on this? It's not like this year has been short on good releases.

I think we need to make a distinction between remakes and remasters. Full on remakes like RE4 should be allowed to compete, remasters or remasters masked as remakes shouldn't.

because they are good. The Thing is one of my favourite films of all time, it's a remake.

Because those remakes are very different from the originals. They're more like new games based on the originals.

Can we stop slut-shaming remakes? The main reason people hate remakes is because they confuse remake with remaster. Remaster is the same game with a new paint of coat, remake is a reimagining of the original. Music is probably the best medium for a comparison, songs get remastered all the time, but it's very much the same song that just sounds better now. A song remake is a different take (usually by a different artist) on the same song, essentially a cover.

We tend to be more critical of covers but nobody would dismiss a good cover just because it's a cover. So why do we do the same with games?

Because it is still the same game. Then they expect us to pay for it again? That is so frustrating

So if you've seen Fincher's Dune then paying for Villeneuve's Dune is not acceptable? After all they're technically the same movie because they're based on the same source material.

I get not liking a remake because it's one to one to the original(edit: I'd even go as far as to say at that point it's likely a remaster not a remake) , but I don't get not liking a remake just because it's a remake. System Shock remake is true to System Shock but it still feels different enough to be a separate game.

I'm not saying that these, or remakes generally, are bad(I've even been thinking of picking up the DS remake). I just don't think they should be contenders for GOTY.

So hypothetically speaking, if there was a remake of some game and that remake turns out to be the best game ever made, then it shouldn't be considered a GOTY contender simply because it's a remake?

What about quake? That got remade and we didn't have to pay for that

What remake? To my knowledge Quake 1 and 2 got enhanced editions, which basically a remaster that also had some additional content.