Obama urged Biden to beef up campaign amid worries about Trump strength in polls: report

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Obama urged Biden to beef up campaign amid worries about Trump strength in polls: report
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Man these libs suuuuure hate when you question their doctrine huh?

Here's a question for the one or two thinkers in this thread. I don't want replies, because replies will carry with them egos and snark for the peanut gallery. These questions are for you, (and no-comprendo's). Questions i had rolling around in my liberal brain before i transitioned to full troll or whatever liberals call leftists these days, questions that take time and reflection to answer.

  • If the Democrats only campaign to stop Republicans, but DON'T STOP the Republicans (only campaign to stop them), then when do we dem voters get to vote to help ourselves? Is there a timeline?

  • It has been 12 years of presidents, 12 long years of waiting, tightening our belts, "fighting for democracy". Why does it seem like the voters are the only ones interested in preserving it?

  • The DGA and the HRC campaign both have paper trails showing they've attempted to elevate extremism in the Republican party. Considering this is still a tactic in use, here's the million dollar question:

  • If the Democratic party could, would they keep running against a candidate like Trump every single election in the future?

Edit: thank you, those of you who are thinking. We need more people out there like you doing that

It has been 12 years of presidents, 12 long years of waiting, tightening our belts, "fighting for democracy". Why does it seem like the voters are the only ones interested in preserving it?

So you were happy with first term Obama but not second term Obama?

Am I reading this right?

Lol you're right. I was on a roll and added a whole term, oops! Let's pretend i meant to include bidens second term, which makes me right and not wrong

You were happy with second term Obama?

Indeed, I even voted for Obama second term. Was i as happy with him as the first time? Nah, but i was still a registered dem back then

Was it Clinton or Biden that caused you to turn your back to them?

I got into politics more deeply than ever, going door to door for bernie back in '16. The verdict by the judge in 17 saying the DNC is a private entity caused me to no longer believe in the Dem's primary process. The way HRC's campaign wanted to control both her and trump coverage in the media, the podesta emails, and that whole related scandal really put a beat down on my whole belief system.

So i kept reading and thinking and adjusting my political worldview and here i am, arguing it on a small forum on the web (or cynically working tirelessly to helpTrump win, depending on your pov)

Bernie didn’t have a chance to win, that’s why Trump desperately wanted to run against him.

He would have been great, but had no chance pulling in enough votes.

Bernie didn’t have a chance to win

The veracity of this comment aside, of course he didn't have a chance, the DNC hand-selected Hillary.

Why did you bring it up instead of what i brought up, the verdict in '17 saying the primaries were rigged?

Hillary won the primaries in 2016.

Biden win them in 2020 even though Trump desperately wanted to run against Bernie.

I think you’re seeing conspiracies where there aren’t any.

Uh, i said its a documented court case. Look it up, or don't, but we won't speak further until you demonstrate you're not a waste of my time.

You must know what court verdict you’re referring to, so I guess you’re unwilling to share the answer to my question.

when he carried on bush's war crimes, i was done with him. i thought executive orders would be undone, not expanded.

i couldn't even make it to obama's second term.

close gitmo
universal healthcare
student debt forgiveness

all lies.

Oh yeah, but you can't overestimate how much prop we get shoved down our throats. Kinda like McDs you don't realize how shit it is for your system until you stop eating it daily

i don't judge you for it, not really. i have friends who voted for hillary, and friends who voted for biden, and, hell, i voted for shapiro for AG ***AND*** governor even though i thought his AG term made him out to be a liar and a cop.

i'm not voting for him for president, though. fuck that.