Why are Ryzen 7040 and 7045 series based devices still not out in the market, despite being released almost a year ago?

velox_vulnus@lemmy.ml to Asklemmy@lemmy.ml – 31 points –

Ryzen 8040 series is already out. There's hardly any device available on any e-commerce or local shops with the above chipset? In fact, there's hardly a few 7030 and 7035 series based devices available? What is happening?

Edit: 7040 and 8040 are the same, with the latter having a slightly better NPU. Almost like a rebrand.

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It’s called the Z1 Extreme. They have absolutely come out with 7840U SKUs as well (the Z1 Extreme non binned)

Also https://frame.work/products/laptop-13-gen-amd has the 7x40U SKUs lol

Both Lenovo and ASUS are using the Z1 in their handhelds

They're supposed to be different chipsets, right? Ryzen Z1 series can operate in the range of 9-30W, as opposed to Phoenix's 15-30W.

From what I see, Z1 = handheld 7540U and Z1 extreme = handheld 7840U.

There's also talks about Phoenix2, but I'm not sure if this is Hawk Point (8040), or the low-powered Zen 4 + 4c combo APU? Right now, 7040 and 8040 look the exact same to me. Almost like as if they have been rebranded for next year, just with the better NPU.

The Z1 is likely a 7540U but the Z1 Extreme is definitely a 7840U. The thing is they’re likely binning a good portion of the 7840U chips and the ones that perform well at lower wattages get to become Z1s

https://www.cpu-monkey.com/en/compare_cpu-amd_ryzen_z1_extreme-vs-amd_ryzen_7_7840u

Updated my old comment a bit. Apart from the slight XDNA NPU improvement, 7040 and 8040 are the same APU lol. Basically, the lower models, which do not come with the AI engine - the 7440U and 7540U, are strikingly similar to 8440U and 8540U, also without the AI engine.

But these models still haven't come to India - we're stuck with the 7020, 7030 and 7035 leftovers. 7040 and 7045 is not available. I was genuinely interested in buying lower-end APUs from AMD from the Zen4 series.

I can tell you it really is a compute beast all things considered TDP wise and such. I have an Ally with the Z1E and the compute performance under plugged in turbo conditions is out of this world. Perf is very similar to a 5700 it blows my mind.

4/6/8 have all been mobile/APU versions of the previous gen fwiw. They changed that up some with the 7000 series and their naming scheme as the 4x indicated Zen 4 (as you likely know). I think (could be wrong) 8000 will indicate Zen 4 by default.

Additionally, technically the 7950x3d is an APU lol. AMD isn't helping with the schema