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I actually had Cyberpunk in mind because my friend is currently obsessed and acts like the issue is that I failed at liking it and need to be fixed by having it crammed down my throat. I'm a brokeass with very few dollars to vote with but hard agree on "stop giving big studios money for making franchise shovelware", especially those three you mentioned and also bethesda.

If you played the 2.0 version and didn't like it, then fair. However, if you played the older version, it might be worth giving it another go. I had low expectations and was extremely pleasantly surprised, plus it looks amazing.

If I still have to put up with Johnny Silverhand then no sale, I had issues with the game beyond the bugs and emptiness of the world.

I can understand not liking Johnny that much, but I can't understand hating him to the point that you think the gaming industry has fallen. That's not really a make or break thing.

whoa whoa whoa, who in the fuck said "Johnny Silverhand means the game industry is over"? CDPR's trash writing and poor design decisions aren't killing any industry.

Might be wrong but you made it seem like Cyberpunk killed your faith in the games industry, so my bad if I'm wrong. Either way, don't really think Johnny counts as trash writing, but you do you.

yeah but as like a "last straw" kind of thing about even bothering with big budget games, but everyone in here seems to want to frame everything i say in the most extreme way possible for some reason

To be fair, you've been saying BG3 looks tedious to play despite it being genuinely one of the absolute best games to come out in the last decade just because it's turn-based, so not quite sure I think our tastes align.

... bro I'm allowed to think it looks tedious and awful, because that's how tastes work. I don't have to pretend to like something because it's popular or other people think it's "the best". I'm fine with turn-based games. What I don't like is extended cutscenes, generic fantasy settings, or TTRPG gameplay, particularly DnD. It's a kind of game I don't care for in the first place, based on a game that I find to be 100% pure tedium, in a type of setting that I am very weary of.

What baffles me the most is why its fans seem so keen on assuming the shallowest take possible and putting words in my mouth because I said their favorite game looks terrible to me. Grow up.

I said our tastes are different, not that you're wrong. You're surprised that people disagree with you making a blanket claim about one of the most beloved games in recent years, AAA or not, and that's your choice to have that opinion and it's not wrong.

I do think you're overreacting to what I'm saying.

you try getting dogpiled for 12 hours for saying how a game based on a game you don't like in the first place looks to you and see how cool your replies are

I dunno, I normally don't say games look tedious and bad if I've only seen a few screenshots, that's just asking to get dog piled. Again, though, totally valid opinion to have.

i watched a 40 minute video but please continue assuming ignorance and stupidity on my part and reading it into everything i say.

Hey that's fair, cyberpunk is a very "safe" game in the rpg genre.

Honestly you might just not be into RPGs at all, and that's totally fine. Don't let other people tell you what to play ya know?

There are good games out there, but the big studios are not making them. Except maybe from soft and larian (imho)

I'm fucking vocal about not liking RPGs, specifically fantasy games, and specifically DnD. Now observe everyone in this thread trying to cram BG3 down my throat, despite the fact that i went and watched a video for them and thought it looks fucking dreadful.

I think the issue that people are responding to is that you're comparing it to Diablo, which is fundamentally a different game. Diablo is a hack and slash game with rpg elements and a god awful loot system. Bg3 is pretty much just playing DND on a computer without a dungeon master. They're just two completely different games. You can't even hack or slash in bg3, it's turn based and tactical.

That said, if you don't like the aesthetic of fantasy games, then clearly none of this will matter to you.

Frankly, it seems like you mostly care about the aesthetics of a game (no shade, just saying) so I'm kind of curious what your favorite game is?

well that came later in the discussion after the cramming had begun and hey i was definitely wrong for that but it does look basically the same until you look close. telling me "go look up a video" was probably the worst way to explain what he meant so thanks for clearing up what that other person was trying to say. I hadn't looked into this game before but I already didn't think it sounded very interesting, and now I'm certain I don't want to play it.

I don't mind a fantasy aesthetic as a strict rule but the genre staples have been done to death, everything is stale dollar store middle-earth (with some le edge and gritte because GoT did well so gotta copy that) and I'm pretty over it. if it's got personality that's one thing but fantasy games almost never do anymore, it all sinks into that low-effort stock setting and medieval camp.

I'm not going to mention any particular game as my favorite because this is still basically reddit, and I am talkig to gamers, and my experience informs me that if I say what I like it will definitely be weaponized against me. But I do like platformers, driving games, turn-based strategy, spaceflight, and the odd RPG that manages to hit that rare sweet spot where it's not flavorless stock narrative but not incomprehensibly up its own ass either.

Yeah for sure, gamers get so fucking sweaty and cringey about people who like different shit. It's annoying. I'll take the heat and just say windwaker is my favorite Zelda game.

If you like platformers, I highly recommend spark the jester 3, it's like a good new sonic game. Also I guess Ghost runner is like a platformer/action game that's supposed to be good? Haven't played it yet but it looks cool.

Anyway I wish you luck in your search for good new games, and I hope you continue to be a chill ass viber

I mean, none of the items on your list I would contribute to BG3.

But since nobody knows you hate BG3 and it is a well received RPG that recently released, of course people are going to mention it.

It is fine if you don't like it. But please don't claim it is worthless when it just isn't your type of game.

How can I hate a game I haven't played? All I've said it that it looks like a chore and I can't see myself playing it. I'm sorry you're butthurt someone else isn't impressed but don't go putting words in my mouth.

So you don't have an informed opinion, but are fast to judge a book by its cover.

Do you just hate it because it is popular and are envious of others people fun and want to shit on it to make yourself feel better?

Why do you feel the need to whiteknight for a game when someone takes a good look and concludes it's not for them and they wouldn't enjoy it? Don't you have better things to do than try to strawman and shame someone on the internet into complying with your opinion about a video game?