Hamas rejects hostage deal amid Qatari, US optimism

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Hamas rejected a hostage deal drafted in Paris over the weekend because it did not include a permanent ceasefire.

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No surprise. What Israel is demanding is the release of all the hostages, at which point Hamas has no leverage against a state that has repeatedly demonstrated that they want to obliterate the Palestinians.

at which point Hamas has no leverage

It's astonishing that it has to be said but rape is neither resistance nor leverage.

He's talking about the hostages though, did you miss that?

Acting like Hamas totally wouldn't rape them while in captivity like they did on Oct 7th: https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2024-01-23/ty-article/.premium/hostage-released-from-gaza-says-hamas-treated-female-hostages-like-dolls/0000018d-35d9-db8f-a7df-37fb5cf70000 (Archive link: https://archive.is/EN0ds)

That they don't allow the Red Cross access to the hostages is also very damning.

Released hostage Aviva Siegel said Tuesday morning in a Knesset lobby for the victims of sexual and gender violence that Hamas terrorists turned the hostages in the Gaza Strip into "puppets with whom they could do what they wanted, when they wanted, and it's beyond belief that they're still there."

Siegel said that she was "a witness to ... The terrorists bringing [the female hostages] inappropriate clothing, dolls clothes." She added, "We'll soon reach four months [since they were kidnapped]. We were there for 51 days and there wasn't a minute that we didn't experience abuse – and they are still there."

"The girls are being raped there and nobody reports on [it]," continued Shir. "We no longer have the option of sitting here and continuing to talk politely. At this very moment, there is somebody sitting in a cave being raped

"We're almost four months after [they were kidnapped], past the point of terminating a pregnancy, why do we have to come here to convince this?"

Not one minute.

All you care about is these hostages when there is so much more that both of the belligerents can do to appease one another. Neither Israel nor Hamas is arguing in good faith and neither are you.

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Holding the hostages is leverage. There's no proof their raping, they might be they might not be. Terrorists aren't the greatest of people obviously. But we're talking real politick, as in from their point of view, what's the best thing to do to achieve their political aims, not what's morally right. No one is defending Hamas, we're just saying we could say why they wouldn't want to release the hostages because then they have nothing to bargain with, and Israel will continue to kill Palestinians, oppress Gaza, and take West Bank settlements as they have for the last 70 years. They've even said their terms, they want a ceasefire.

Your reply is nonsensical with that context. It's like your brain is so warped by rage and Zionist propaganda that you can't imagine anything from anyone else's point of view. Holding hostages is leverage whether you like it or not, because as long as their alive, people want to see their family members back.

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