Tame your inner dictator!

Problematic Consumer@lemmy.world to Fediverse@lemmy.world – 43 points –

Everywhere I look there are people advocating for defederation from this and that! Do you even understand what you're suggesting? Do you get what's the point of decentralized social media and activity pub?

This is supposed to be free and accessible for everyone. We all have brains and can decide who to interact with.

If meta or any other company manages to create a better product it's just natural that people tend to use it. I won't use it, you may not use it and it's totally fine! It's about having options. Also as Mastodon's CEO pointed out there's no privacy concern, everything stays on your instance.

Edit: after reading and responding to many comments, I should point out that I'm not against defederation in general. It's a great feature if used properly. Problem is General Instances with open sign-ups and tens of thousands of users making decisions on par of users and deciding what they can and can not see.

If you have a niche or small community with shared and agreed upon values, defederating can be great. But I believe individual users are intelligent enough to choose.

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Then what exactly is your proposed solution? Just more complaining and name-calling like you have been?

Yes I am, you are suggesting I don’t know the meaning of these words, so I’ve provided an example of the exact same situation (importance doesn’t change meaning of words here, does it?)

This is just fucking ridiculous. If you really think signing up for another instance actually requires the same amount of effort as leaving an authoritarian country (while doubling down to clarify that they are EXACTLY THE SAME) means that I am probably just a masochist for continuing to engage with you.

Social Consensus! This should be part of the culture that unless some instance is factually harming us or content there is illegal (for jurisdiction of the hosted instance) we should not defederate.

Well, ultimately, that’s just like, your opinion man. Besides that you think people are dictators when they propose defederation (sometimes)

Well, it was always my opinion! No one's opinion is a fact, necessarily. Let's agree to disagree! glhf

I was going to ask “don’t you want to try to bring people over to your point of view for the sake of building a social consensus) and then I remember that you called those people “dictators” so I guess not.

I was going to ask “don’t you want to try to bring people over to your point of view for the sake of building a social consensus?” and then I remember that you called those people “dictators” so I guess not.

At this point I'm getting bad vibes from you TBH! I've expressed my opinion and apparently some people find it compelling and some disagree, that's fine!

The feeling is mutual, as I’ve had bad vibes about you since your original post!

But no one is forcing you to comment! You've expressed your opposition and I respect your opinion!

And as someone who has family that had to escape the Soviet Union, I don’t respect your opinion that what they went through is “exactly the same” as making an account on a different instance!

And as someone who lived most of my life under an authoritarian regime, I don't respect your advocation for censorship. If you knew the effect of thinking you know better than anyone and can decide for them, you would never make such comments.

And as someone who cares about the meanings of words, I don’t agree with you that defederarion is censorship, especially to the point of insisting it’s literally exactly the same as government censorship of its citizens!

The feeling is mutual, as I’ve had bad vibes about you since your original post!

Great! I’ve had bad vibes about you since your original post!