Lemmy.ml is acting as a proxy instance for Hexbear and should be defederated by any instances that defederate from Hexbear
The mods of all the major communities there remove comments criticism Hexbear and usually follow it up with a ban. It's absolutely clear what is happening and it shouldn't be allowed to continue.
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>Fascism is a political strategy that seeks to preserve, create, and entrench structures and relationships of power imbalance by means of promoting and facilitating mass, broad-spectrum chauvinism in ways that are likely to encourage widespread individual and systemic violence.
fascism is a social theory that elevates the interests of the state above all else, bringing all other institutions into line with the goals of the state.
sometimes, this will require strict stratification. people will not support the state while thy don't believe in the fairness of the stratification.
chauvinism may be a useful tool to some regimes, but it's not necessary or sufficient to identify a society as fascist.
imho.
You're defining fascism as an organizational structure? So an island nation that's able to be efficiently organized from the top down due to its small size is fascist, regardless of other considerations?
it has to do with the primacy of the state. if the society is built around the supremacy of the state and all of the institutions serve the interest of the state... that's exactly what mussolini was trying to build.
I mean, sure, but I don't think we should base our definition off of Italian fascism per-se. It just doesn't capture modern notions of fascism. Most obviously, it doesn't include contemporary American fascism, which openly derides the state as an institution.
>, it doesn’t include contemporary American fascism, which openly derides the state as an institution.
i would say that's not true. i'd say the democrats are fantastic fascists who laud the state as the panacea for all of society's ills. but even the republicans would never try to degrade the military and policing power of the state.
Democrats aren't generally fascists.
Liberals aren't usually fascists.
Calling these groups fascist is an ✨ a m a z i n g ✨ way to dilute the potency of the label, and thus has negative utility. Any definition of fascism that includes the DNC and excludes the RNC entirely fails in providing a useful foundation, be it for reasoning about the nature of fascism or creating propaganda.
>Democrats aren’t generally fascists.
i'd disagree, but, again, i'm consulting mussolini for my definition, not 21st century vibes.
The reason that people fight against tankies more than what you call fascists is because tankies are far more prevelant than what I and most other people on the platform consider fascism. That is to say, your definition of fascism entirely fails to encapsulate what most people mean when they use the word, and so you shouldn't be surprised that they don't complain about fascism as much as you do. It's like if you went camping and then started screaming about how everyone's suddenly saying that arson isn't a big deal.
English has descriptive definitions; we look at what people mean when they say a word and then base our definition on that, rather than having an official definition that everyone is required to use. If you call liberals fascists, you are alienating a potential ally, and you're going to be called a tankie because that's the kind of backwards shit that Tankies do.
Liberals and fascists are different. You can disagree with liberals, but calling them fascists just lets fascism hide more easily.
>If you call liberals fascists, you are alienating a potential ally
leftists have a saying:
scratch a liberal, and a fascist bleeds.
if liberals want to be my ally, they will abandon liberalism.
Try going outside; the sun is good for you.