That's what I'm talking about though. The stupid changes usually get caught, but you still have someone there who thought it was a good idea.
And more importantly, while the stupid change itself might have been caught it usually doesn't translate into a lesson not to listen to the person with the stupid idea next time.
That's the nature of collaborative problem solving though. I've proposed some dumb ideas before. I'm sure you have too. There's nothing wrong with stupid ideas being proposed. The issues arise when you either are surrounded by yes-men or are too forceful and ignore the advice of everyone else.
So... when it stops being collaboration?
edit: original post was in response to another comment. My bad.
Yeah, once it stops being collaborative, it becomes a problem. The original act of just proposing a stupid idea is fine, because it's collaborative, but as soon as one person (company,entity...) becomes too imposing to say no to, it's just bad times.
That's what I'm talking about though. The stupid changes usually get caught, but you still have someone there who thought it was a good idea.
And more importantly, while the stupid change itself might have been caught it usually doesn't translate into a lesson not to listen to the person with the stupid idea next time.
That's the nature of collaborative problem solving though. I've proposed some dumb ideas before. I'm sure you have too. There's nothing wrong with stupid ideas being proposed. The issues arise when you either are surrounded by yes-men or are too forceful and ignore the advice of everyone else.
So... when it stops being collaboration?
edit: original post was in response to another comment. My bad.
Yeah, once it stops being collaborative, it becomes a problem. The original act of just proposing a stupid idea is fine, because it's collaborative, but as soon as one person (company,entity...) becomes too imposing to say no to, it's just bad times.