If you are a Libertarian and hold liberty as your core value, why do you not believe in universal healthcare? Nothing impacts liberty more than sickness and death.

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Libertarians want freedom from government force. They want to be able to fund healthcare by choice. They want the freedom to not have taxes being used to send weapons oversees. Libertarians are for social and economic freedom.

Until they get a tooth ache I guess.

Is it morally right to make you pay ten times more when you need it (at the dentist /hospital/...) because you didn't want to pay before?

I'm not sure what you are implying. An individual can pay for insurance or not. They are free to choose. Or they can pay for the entire cost upfront when problems arise.

Exactly!

So I pay my taxes for decades, and you don't?

Just going to the doctor for the first time at say 30 (imagining you started working at 20 but "decide" to not pay taxes) would cost you houndred of thousands of missed back pays before you get let into the building.

Is that your libertarian thing? Or do you think you just would never go to the doctor/hospital/dentist/need an ambulance ride, ... ?

Or worse, you get it basically free?

Libertarians want freedom from government force.

So where were you "libertarians" when BLM and other leftists were calling to defund and abolish the police?

Probably defending their shops from BLM rioters

Just be honest about how badly you want to see black people lynched in the streets, white supremacist.

Don't hide behind dog-whistles.

I don't.

non-socialist ≠ necessarily racist

Man whatever drugs you on, pass them

I'm not doing white supremacism sprinkled with liberal handwringing - so curb your enthusiasm.

Libertarians are, to an individual, categorical idiots who don’t seem to have the mental capacity to seriously and rigorously analyze and understand what a true “free-for-all” hypercapitalist society would imply. They just want to not pay taxes.

There is no need to be rude. OP asked for libertarian views.

Yeah, but libertarians are antisocial asshole idiots by simple virtue of the fact that they think libertarianism is a viable concept. It’s just not, nor will it ever be going forward.

I can put it another way: I find the ideology offensive and societally caustic in the extreme. We do not live in a vacuum. We live in a society (in a literal sense - not going for the meme here). To pretend that we don’t is incredibly dumb.