If you are a Libertarian and hold liberty as your core value, why do you not believe in universal healthcare? Nothing impacts liberty more than sickness and death.

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When you combine "Libertarian" with the greed that is typical in the ultra wealthy, their core value typically only includes liberty for themselves and no empathy for others. You can use any party label you want but without empathy, members of every party are nothing more than selfish pieces of shit. Just to be clear, I am not a "they're all the same" idiot, as Republicans clearly think empathy is a four letter word. But there are sociopaths without empathy everywhere in society, especially in the US.

As far as universal healthcare is concerned, we can't even agree as a society to provide clean water to our population by removing leaded pipes. Why would we expect something as reasonable as universal healthcare?

When you combine “Libertarian” with the greed that is typical in the ultra wealthy, their core value typically only includes liberty for themselves and no empathy for others.

I would argue that, at that point, they are no longer libertarian. To uphold liberty, as described in libertarianism, is to uphold it universally.

Oh I agree. Even F Hayek in “Road to Surfdom” said that government needs to regulate certain industries (he used the example of pollution and environment ironically). Even the founding father of libertarianism knew that the “free market” is incapable of regulating some things.

said that government needs to regulate certain industries

I completely agree. It is often overlooked that this is core to capitalism ­— capitalism is a market with adequate regulation to ensure fair competition.

he used the example of pollution and environment ironically

Imo, this is more of a Georgist position, but I could certainly see an argument for its overlap with libertarianism.