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No, that's not what I mean. I am not referring to personal home ownership, but the system of Capitalism.

The anti-poor laws and racist laws exist because of class dynamics, not vibes. The issue is Capitalism itself.

I am not arguing that police should just do whatever.

I honestly can't figure out what point you are making. I see a lot of buzz-words like anti-poor, racist, private property rights, status quo, etc. but I don't understand how you think this plays out practically. The person you are replying to was asking for real-world examples of the cops defending rich white people in instances they wouldnt support poor non-white people.

I'm not even saying I disagree necessarily, just that you haven't answered the initial question.

There are systemic issues core to how Capitalist systems are set up, and the violent arm that upholds these is the police.

Does that make sense?

Your comment speaks to high level concepts but you didn't provide an the example to ground it to reality.

Like others have mentioned they aren't seeing these examples of core issues having impacts on their day to day lives/communities. I'm not either. When it comes down to it, laws written to apply to everyone are generally enforced for everyone.

Catching violent perpetrators pretty much always takes priority over non-violent theft. When we see acts of violence get immediate police attention it feels like the image you are trying to portay is inaccurate.

I am not referring to unequal application of the law, but the law itself and the police as its enforcers.

Cool. Now give real actionable examples of this stuff happening. I'm not saying it doesn't, I'm fairly sure it does. People keep prodding you for SPECIFIC EXAMPLES though, not just a definition.

The violence of Capitalism is ensured by Private Property Rights, ie Capitalists can exist. Without police, Capitalism would not exist.

Redlining as a concept is practiced to this day.

What do you mean a "specific example?"

Cases where this has happened. Articles detailing actual, specific, times that these things have happened.

To be clear - I agree with you. I'm merely trying to point out why people seem to be talking past you, and you past them.

Where what has happened, Capitalism remaining legal and enforced via state violence? That's the status quo almost everywhere.

I'm not going to keep going on this rhetoric treadmill with you. Once again, I agree in bulk with what you're saying, I'm merely trying to point out why you're not really having an impact with the words you're saying. Im reasonably sure you know exactly what kinds of examples people want to see. Both refusing to supply them or acting ignorant to the request degrade your argument and make it feel like you aren't arguing in good faith, you're just shouting talking points.

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