Note that the commenter didn’t say to quit all eating meat. They just said to quit eating “factory farmed” meat.
It’s not about eating meat, it’s about factory farming the meat and the damage to the environment caused by it.
... right. but your personal consumption doesn't change industrial output.
If you are spending money on factory farmed meat, you are financing the industry.
If you are spending money on factory farmed meat, you are financing the industry.
regardless of what i (or you) spend my (or your) money on, the industry continues to grow. if i get hit by a bus today on my way home from work and die, the meat industry, i guarantee you, will not notice. they will continue to grow, producing more meat this year than last, and more next year than this.
That is the cynical reason for not doing anything ever to help the world.
Why should I vote? I’m one person and that will never make a difference.
Why should I recycle? I’m just one person and that will never make a difference.
Why should I donate to charity? I’m just one person and that will never make a difference.
Anything that you could do individually to help the world will make zero noticeable impact so long as you are the only one doing it. But collectively, the more people doing it the more of an impact it will have.
And how do we get a larger community of people to start something like this? Oh, I don’t know, maybe send your idea out on a forum of like minded people (such as people expressing concern about the environment) and hope to inspire others that actually care to make a change in their own habits.
Why should I recycle? I’m just one person and that will never make a difference.
well that's probably true. the real issue is the wasteful packaging produced, and no matter how much you recycle, that's never going to curb the amount of wasteful packaging produced.
collectively, the more people doing it the more of an impact it will have.
well, duh. but there are still effective things you can do to help the environment. buying beans isn't one of them.
Anything that you could do individually to help the world will make zero noticeable impact so long as you are the only one doing it.
that's not true.
Why should I donate to charity? I’m just one person and that will never make a difference.
often, charities are able to show exactly how much money it takes to accomplish their goals. $0.11/day to feed a child is one that's stuck with me. but regardless, i think charity is a societal ill and we should be building societies that are not so stratified, so that charities are superfluous. instead of donating to charity, spend your resources building a more egalitarian society.
And how do we get a larger community of people to start something like this? Oh, I don’t know, maybe send your idea out on a forum of like minded people (such as people expressing concern about the environment) and hope to inspire others that actually care to make a change in their own habits.
let me know how that works out for you.
That is the cynical reason for not doing anything ever to help the world.
it's a very good reason not to do things that aren't effective.
From the cynical perspective, that makes 100% sense. Not everybody is so cynical, though.
if you were proposing an effective solution i'd be all for it. we've had vegans since the 1940s, and it has not stopped the growth of agriculture industries. they have become more efficient, but i'm not sure that's either good or attributable to vegans.
Why should I vote? I’m one person and that will never make a difference.
voting is disanalogous to buying food. big meat doesn't win or lose one day every four years.
Producing that meat does.
Note that the commenter didn’t say to quit all eating meat. They just said to quit eating “factory farmed” meat.
It’s not about eating meat, it’s about factory farming the meat and the damage to the environment caused by it.
... right. but your personal consumption doesn't change industrial output.
If you are spending money on factory farmed meat, you are financing the industry.
regardless of what i (or you) spend my (or your) money on, the industry continues to grow. if i get hit by a bus today on my way home from work and die, the meat industry, i guarantee you, will not notice. they will continue to grow, producing more meat this year than last, and more next year than this.
That is the cynical reason for not doing anything ever to help the world.
Why should I vote? I’m one person and that will never make a difference.
Why should I recycle? I’m just one person and that will never make a difference.
Why should I donate to charity? I’m just one person and that will never make a difference.
Anything that you could do individually to help the world will make zero noticeable impact so long as you are the only one doing it. But collectively, the more people doing it the more of an impact it will have.
And how do we get a larger community of people to start something like this? Oh, I don’t know, maybe send your idea out on a forum of like minded people (such as people expressing concern about the environment) and hope to inspire others that actually care to make a change in their own habits.
well that's probably true. the real issue is the wasteful packaging produced, and no matter how much you recycle, that's never going to curb the amount of wasteful packaging produced.
well, duh. but there are still effective things you can do to help the environment. buying beans isn't one of them.
that's not true.
often, charities are able to show exactly how much money it takes to accomplish their goals. $0.11/day to feed a child is one that's stuck with me. but regardless, i think charity is a societal ill and we should be building societies that are not so stratified, so that charities are superfluous. instead of donating to charity, spend your resources building a more egalitarian society.
let me know how that works out for you.
it's a very good reason not to do things that aren't effective.
From the cynical perspective, that makes 100% sense. Not everybody is so cynical, though.
if you were proposing an effective solution i'd be all for it. we've had vegans since the 1940s, and it has not stopped the growth of agriculture industries. they have become more efficient, but i'm not sure that's either good or attributable to vegans.
voting is disanalogous to buying food. big meat doesn't win or lose one day every four years.