I hope that "Go back to Reddit" doesn't become a recurring jab used against others in the fediverse
Fediverse@kbin.social – 135 points – Noticing some people levying that against people bringing up complaints about their experience here. It's not the spirit which I hope will prevail. Also, lazy cop out in a discussion.
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Absolutely. In my experience, there's a really strong tendency from people who are already all-in on fedi to treat "this thing doesn't have feature X that my previous site Y did" as simple whining and respond to it with hostility rather than constructive criticism, you can see that with the thin-skinned reaction to some criticisms of Mastodon back in November about e.g. lack of quote posts or poor discovery features.
They don't treat it as constructive criticism or actual feedback from users but instead as an assault on something they identify with personally, which is a recipe for disaster
@Bloonface@kbin.social One of the reasons why I like Kbin quite a bit. People tend to start identifying with the community and the software, and tend to take criticisms personal. Kbin does not have that history, and thus criticisms are less impactful.
It also explains why Mastodon has a serious pushback against search on masto servers like universeodon, but not against search on every other software such as *key
I think kbinauts just do things differently than the mastodon crowd as well. It's been just a few days and yet we've already gotten 3 userscripts to modify how kbin works, with some of those features added into the main development roadmap. I can't imagine that happening with mastodon.
Could you, by chance, please give some links to those userscripts?
Unfortunately, it seems kbin search is broken ATM (returns a 500) and google seems to only index magazines, not individual threads, so it's a bit hard to search for them
Userscript for collapsing comments and adding instance names: https://kbin.social/m/kbinMeta/t/22210/kbin-enhancement-script-Userscript-to-collapse-comments-and-add-domains
userscript for adding instance names: https://kbin.social/m/kbinMeta/t/23936/kbin-social-I-wrote-a-user-script-to-add-the-home-instance-name#entry-comment-95321
userstyle to make kbin more like reddit (and put comment box at the top of the page rather than bottom): https://kbin.social/m/kbinStyles/t/13287/Kbin-it-Changelog
firefox extension to convert community links into kbin links: https://kbin.social/m/kbinMeta/t/21693/Introducing-Kbin-Link-Navigate-between-communities-with-ease
Thank you!
People just generally become very defensive when it comes to stuff like this. Instead of being happy other people are trying to engage with it, that they are excited about the potential and how it's gonna grow in the coming months or years, they fear the change. It's completely human nature but also something that requires active effort to recognize and get over. I too am looking forward to what happens with fediverse, but I think its apparent to anyone that it's still in a very young phase and requires a lot of work to get it to a more usable state - the recent situation with beehaw, federation options and moderation tools is a great example of stuff we're still missing and need to improve on.
It's interesting to witness that anxiety happen. It'd be cool if people learned to just enjoy the chaos of newness - especially since none of this is life or death, after all. We're not having issues planting our crops for the year or something!
I sort of tie all this to issues of distress intolerance. Challenges with self-regulation that are larger than the hiccups of an online platform. I totally get the frustration of something not working. But then there's what you do with frustration, right? Managing it. And, even, learning to transmute it into excitement and fascination at the new. The latter is what I see a lot Binners* doing and it's a large part of what I'm enjoying here.
* Hey, I like Kbinauts, but I gotta plug my own nomenclature pref while I can
Oh absolutely, people get way too invested in this stuff. I was on reddit for 10 years and if it went offline tomorrow it'd be an inconvenience but life goes on. I'm going to lose even less sleep over kbin or lemmy, if I stop enjoying it I will just leave and try to find some other chill community to engage with. Something always pops up eventually, but at least try to make the best of it while you're here, yaknow, it's exciting times.