Want more? Vote and give them consistent and overwhelming victories.
Lucy with the football.
Hello Mr Crab! You have graced me with two messages today. What shall we cover today? Oh, that they "take away" something. Ok let's cover how much power they have had:
They have had control of all 3 (house of reps, senate, and presidency) for 4 years of the last 24 years. If you to go back further, then it's 6 years of the last 44 fucking years. If you want more progress, then you're gonna have to up that!
Is this where you complain that they didn't do everything, everywhere, all at once when they had control? If so, then I say that writing up legislation takes time, energy, and political capital. You can't do literally everything, everywhere, all at once.
Ok we'll see how this conversation goes huh MrCrab.
They have had control of all 3 (house of reps, senate, and presidency) for 4 years of the last 24 years.
And they wasted as much of that as possible. How large does the majority have to be? How long do we have to hold it before Democrats actually keep their fucking promises to someone other than Netanyahu?
When will Democrats start using the majorities we give them?
Yup there is Mr Crab! so I'll just C+P
Writing up legislation takes time, energy, and political capital. You can’t do literally everything, everywhere, all at once.
Here's a very short list of what Biden has done: Green energy, EV investment, union empowerment, student debt forgiveness, marijuana rescheduling and pardons, infrastructure, drug price controls, Chips act, PACT act, etc etc etc. Non-competes banned (by FTC along 'party lines'). Pardoning people kicked out for being gay. Supporting Ukraine.
But you want to suggest they aren't using the majority to do anything.
I wonder if that will suffice for this conversation!
Most of what you're claiming Biden accomplished aren't real accomplishments though... not yet at any rate. He WANTS to do more, it's that what he has done is either ineffective, blocked by the courts, or so far in the future nobody knows or cares.
For example...
EV investment. Biden signed a law pushing $7.5 billion dollars into fast charging infrastructure. That's fantastic! And 100% mandatory for an EV future.
In the 2 years since signing it, only 8 have been built. That's NOT a success.
Now you can go "Well, that's not Biden's fault, he gave everyone the funding they needed to make it happen..."
No, but what IS Biden's fault is claiming it as a giant achievement when it's absolutely not.
When Republicans do it, we actively mock them, not claim we should put their face on Mt. Rushmore:
I'm sorry but y'all have no idea how many levels there are to infrastructure. Biden does funding and basic rules. Then the states and perhaps cities have to do the planning. Which is a big deal - if they're trying to fill in gaps they need to study this. Then after planning is public open houses and public input, which may change planning (loop created). That's where the nimbys get to cry and say no, which the government has to listen to and accommodate to various degree. Lots of back and forth between public, state planning, and federal ok. Then it goes to engineering (different than planning). Then a competitive bid - this is government, everything needs a long competitive bid for anti corruption. Then bid review. Then bid award. Then building permits. Then finally construction contractor mobilization. All those have wait times too because none of these companies or departments (planning, engineering, construction) are sitting twiddling their thumbs. New work generally goes to the back of the queue or has to be fit in somewhere.
Biden did his part, and yes after that it's not on him. Personally I don't blame or mock either party when things take time. He gets credit for his part. He was successful at his part.
You don't get to brag about it until it's done and it's, what? 1% done?
Same thing with student debt relief.
"We're going to forgive student debt! Yay!"
* If you borrowed $12,000 or less.
** And you haven't missed any payments in 10 years.
If you borrowed $12K or less and have been making payments for 10 years, you don't have any significant debt to forgive.
Dude I already explained the mechanism of infrastructure. I explained in great detail why it takes a long time and why you can't wait, which you don't even bother to respond to. You just make the same claim and you're off to the next one. For that I could talk about the courts and then how they had to rewrite the specifics (those weren't the conditions I heard, the ones I heard were very decent), but then you won't respond to the detail, you'll make the same claim, and you'll be off to next one again. What's the point?
So yes he gets credit for his part. Demanding we wait for the whole thing to play out when the wheels are in motion and it's happening is frankly ridiculous. Ciao.
I get it, it took a year of permitting and inspections to get solar panels on my house, but I wasn't bragging that it was done and how much solar I was generating when the project wasn't completed yet.
That's what Biden is doing. And if Harris loses in November, Trump will kill it all and Biden will have done nothing.
marijuana rescheduling
HE. HAS. NOT. RESCHEDULED. A. GODDAMNED. THING.
You've decided to lie to me, so we're done.
HE. HAS. NOT. RESCHEDULED. A. GODDAMNED. THING.
Lol are we at the point where you are being pedantic? He told whatever agency to take a look at scheduling, because it's their jurisdiction. Hint Hint wink wink.
You can be done, I just take it to mean you don't like his accomplishments (oh wait I said his, are you going to be pedantic again?)
You lied; we're done.
Lol yup you're being pedantic. On such an odd, little common turn of phrase. But you can leave, I just take it to mean you have no real response.
You lied. Cannabis is still Schedule 1. "We're looking into it" is not an accomplishment. You lied so we're done. If you don't like that, you shouldn't have lied.
Oh so instead I may have gotten a little ahead of the ball. Like wow you're still being pedantic. Instead of actually responding.
Have at being upset, I think everyone can see you're just trying to use it as an out instead of an intellectual response. Like how you keep saying you're done, but you keep coming back.
Oh so instead I may have gotten a little ahead of the ball.
No, you lied.
Still coming back after you said done how many times.
Just a little ahead of the ball. You being this upset at that is frankly funny. Keep showing me and everyone else how you rely on being upset and pedantic instead of actually responding to either chain.
Lucy with the football.
Hello Mr Crab! You have graced me with two messages today. What shall we cover today? Oh, that they "take away" something. Ok let's cover how much power they have had:
They have had control of all 3 (house of reps, senate, and presidency) for 4 years of the last 24 years. If you to go back further, then it's 6 years of the last 44 fucking years. If you want more progress, then you're gonna have to up that!
Is this where you complain that they didn't do everything, everywhere, all at once when they had control? If so, then I say that writing up legislation takes time, energy, and political capital. You can't do literally everything, everywhere, all at once.
Ok we'll see how this conversation goes huh MrCrab.
And they wasted as much of that as possible. How large does the majority have to be? How long do we have to hold it before Democrats actually keep their fucking promises to someone other than Netanyahu?
When will Democrats start using the majorities we give them?
Yup there is Mr Crab! so I'll just C+P
Writing up legislation takes time, energy, and political capital. You can’t do literally everything, everywhere, all at once.
Here's a very short list of what Biden has done: Green energy, EV investment, union empowerment, student debt forgiveness, marijuana rescheduling and pardons, infrastructure, drug price controls, Chips act, PACT act, etc etc etc. Non-competes banned (by FTC along 'party lines'). Pardoning people kicked out for being gay. Supporting Ukraine.
But you want to suggest they aren't using the majority to do anything.
I wonder if that will suffice for this conversation!
Most of what you're claiming Biden accomplished aren't real accomplishments though... not yet at any rate. He WANTS to do more, it's that what he has done is either ineffective, blocked by the courts, or so far in the future nobody knows or cares.
For example...
EV investment. Biden signed a law pushing $7.5 billion dollars into fast charging infrastructure. That's fantastic! And 100% mandatory for an EV future.
In the 2 years since signing it, only 8 have been built. That's NOT a success.
https://reason.com/2024/05/30/7-5-billion-in-government-cash-only-built-8-e-v-chargers-in-2-5-years/
Now you can go "Well, that's not Biden's fault, he gave everyone the funding they needed to make it happen..."
No, but what IS Biden's fault is claiming it as a giant achievement when it's absolutely not.
When Republicans do it, we actively mock them, not claim we should put their face on Mt. Rushmore:
I'm sorry but y'all have no idea how many levels there are to infrastructure. Biden does funding and basic rules. Then the states and perhaps cities have to do the planning. Which is a big deal - if they're trying to fill in gaps they need to study this. Then after planning is public open houses and public input, which may change planning (loop created). That's where the nimbys get to cry and say no, which the government has to listen to and accommodate to various degree. Lots of back and forth between public, state planning, and federal ok. Then it goes to engineering (different than planning). Then a competitive bid - this is government, everything needs a long competitive bid for anti corruption. Then bid review. Then bid award. Then building permits. Then finally construction contractor mobilization. All those have wait times too because none of these companies or departments (planning, engineering, construction) are sitting twiddling their thumbs. New work generally goes to the back of the queue or has to be fit in somewhere.
Biden did his part, and yes after that it's not on him. Personally I don't blame or mock either party when things take time. He gets credit for his part. He was successful at his part.
You don't get to brag about it until it's done and it's, what? 1% done?
Same thing with student debt relief.
"We're going to forgive student debt! Yay!"
* If you borrowed $12,000 or less.
** And you haven't missed any payments in 10 years.
If you borrowed $12K or less and have been making payments for 10 years, you don't have any significant debt to forgive.
Dude I already explained the mechanism of infrastructure. I explained in great detail why it takes a long time and why you can't wait, which you don't even bother to respond to. You just make the same claim and you're off to the next one. For that I could talk about the courts and then how they had to rewrite the specifics (those weren't the conditions I heard, the ones I heard were very decent), but then you won't respond to the detail, you'll make the same claim, and you'll be off to next one again. What's the point?
So yes he gets credit for his part. Demanding we wait for the whole thing to play out when the wheels are in motion and it's happening is frankly ridiculous. Ciao.
I get it, it took a year of permitting and inspections to get solar panels on my house, but I wasn't bragging that it was done and how much solar I was generating when the project wasn't completed yet.
That's what Biden is doing. And if Harris loses in November, Trump will kill it all and Biden will have done nothing.
HE. HAS. NOT. RESCHEDULED. A. GODDAMNED. THING.
You've decided to lie to me, so we're done.
Lol are we at the point where you are being pedantic? He told whatever agency to take a look at scheduling, because it's their jurisdiction. Hint Hint wink wink.
You can be done, I just take it to mean you don't like his accomplishments (oh wait I said his, are you going to be pedantic again?)
You lied; we're done.
Lol yup you're being pedantic. On such an odd, little common turn of phrase. But you can leave, I just take it to mean you have no real response.
You lied. Cannabis is still Schedule 1. "We're looking into it" is not an accomplishment. You lied so we're done. If you don't like that, you shouldn't have lied.
Oh so instead I may have gotten a little ahead of the ball. Like wow you're still being pedantic. Instead of actually responding.
Have at being upset, I think everyone can see you're just trying to use it as an out instead of an intellectual response. Like how you keep saying you're done, but you keep coming back.
No, you lied.
Still coming back after you said done how many times.
Just a little ahead of the ball. You being this upset at that is frankly funny. Keep showing me and everyone else how you rely on being upset and pedantic instead of actually responding to either chain.
You just keep lying. It's what centrists do.