Are you Liam in disguise or something? Why are you trying to make up shit like I'm "stalking" posts mentioning their site? I'm a user of Lemmy just the same as anyone else and when I see posts that bring up this toxic person's site, I can easily help inform people of their gross manipulative behavior.
There isn't even some grand "toxic" or "manipulative" coverup. The mod deleted the whole interaction because it was pointless and rude from both of you. It added nothing.
The jannie took out the trash and you're still harrassing them about the subjectivity of annoyance and respect.
Y'know who makes that subjective choice? The mods.
I have no ties to this, but I am in opposition to this neat little narrative you appear to be creating tossing out buzzwords like toxic, gross, manipulative without evidence to back it up.
I've provided plenty of evidence, and there is more to be found if you feel like you need it. Do you really expect me to provide an exhausting dissertation on every single detail of the situation? I provided just enough to back up my claims. If you feel you need more, that's on you and it's available for you to find. That does not warrant your baseless accusations.
So, because I copied my messages from before explaining the situation in an attempt to educate people about the toxic behavior of the website owner? Should I have wrote a whole new comment instead? Should I just keep quiet and let toxic people not reap the consequences of their actions?
Okay, bud.
Each time burying the lead that the mod abuse was against you.
I didn't even know who you were until I realized the username in the screenshot matched.
Have you ever heard that there's 3 sides to every story?
I've seen yours. I think it's a whole lotta nothing.
Your inability to let it go after months.. It all tells me everything I need to know about why this means so much to you, and why you're still doing this.
Educator...okay.
This keeps you up at night.
Lol your argument is that the mod abuse is somehow okay because it wasn't against someone else?
Why should any amount of mod abuse be okay, forgotten, or 'let go'?
You've spent way too much time arguing a shitty position that really has no effect on you. Then you say I need to ' let it go'?
The irony is too sad to be funny. I feel sorry for you.
My argument is that you first appear to be a nuetral reporter when, in reality, you are a biased participant.
Also... This is night 1 of me thinking about this.
There won't be a night 2.
This is night 80 for you.
Don't project.
So, the facts are somehow not facts because of the source they came from?
You're insane.
No. The facts are not facts because they're opinions. You present your "facts" through the lens of a neutral party, and you are clearly anything but neutral.
You make a claim hoping to get the hivemind on your side. You dump screenshots showing your embarrassing behavior and count on the fact that 60+ people won't even stop to verify or form their own opinion.
The sad part is that you're right. You can say anything and if it aligns with their preconceived narrative, they'll upvote and keep scrolling.
Which is exactly why you bury the lead, because if you said outright from the beginning that it was against you, well then people would be alerted to your inherent bias and actually form their own opinions.
The facts are presented as neutral because they exist and are neutral.
The moderator deleted messages to hide their negative response, including messages that broke no rules citing a non-existent rule for the reason. They found out that the mod logs are public after they were called out for misusing their moderator powers by deleting messages that broke no rules. Then immediately deleted their account and complained about it on mastodon, very clearly stating that their issue was that mod logs are public.
If you think that those facts somehow change because of the context, then that's on you. You're just flat wrong.
You just can't help being pedantic. They're both correct.
The moderator got tired of this platform because it enables people who feel they were slighted to critique their every move. Mod logs don't have to be public. I think it's fine to disagree with that as a moderator. Mod abuse has been caught for decades without it, none of your argument hinged on the public mod logs other than the mastadon post where he shared annoyance that you were bothering him with them. Moderators are free to moderate with the tools and platform they want. He resigned, so fucking what.
He was snarky back at you. Big whoop.
This is an insular 1st world problem you are experiencing. Stemming from a bruised ego. This guy is not manipulative or toxic. You're overreacting.
Looking through your comments you do plenty of "dishing it out". But this is how you react when someone sarcastically replies to you then nukes the thread? You must have paper skin.
Are you Liam in disguise or something? Why are you trying to make up shit like I'm "stalking" posts mentioning their site? I'm a user of Lemmy just the same as anyone else and when I see posts that bring up this toxic person's site, I can easily help inform people of their gross manipulative behavior.
There isn't even some grand "toxic" or "manipulative" coverup. The mod deleted the whole interaction because it was pointless and rude from both of you. It added nothing.
The jannie took out the trash and you're still harrassing them about the subjectivity of annoyance and respect. Y'know who makes that subjective choice? The mods.
I have no ties to this, but I am in opposition to this neat little narrative you appear to be creating tossing out buzzwords like toxic, gross, manipulative without evidence to back it up.
I've provided plenty of evidence, and there is more to be found if you feel like you need it. Do you really expect me to provide an exhausting dissertation on every single detail of the situation? I provided just enough to back up my claims. If you feel you need more, that's on you and it's available for you to find. That does not warrant your baseless accusations.
baseless...sure... you haven't been buthurt for months or anything... copypasting your narrative... oh... wait
So, because I copied my messages from before explaining the situation in an attempt to educate people about the toxic behavior of the website owner? Should I have wrote a whole new comment instead? Should I just keep quiet and let toxic people not reap the consequences of their actions?
Okay, bud.
Each time burying the lead that the mod abuse was against you.
I didn't even know who you were until I realized the username in the screenshot matched.
Have you ever heard that there's 3 sides to every story? I've seen yours. I think it's a whole lotta nothing.
Your inability to let it go after months.. It all tells me everything I need to know about why this means so much to you, and why you're still doing this.
Educator...okay.
This keeps you up at night.
Lol your argument is that the mod abuse is somehow okay because it wasn't against someone else?
Why should any amount of mod abuse be okay, forgotten, or 'let go'?
You've spent way too much time arguing a shitty position that really has no effect on you. Then you say I need to ' let it go'?
The irony is too sad to be funny. I feel sorry for you.
My argument is that you first appear to be a nuetral reporter when, in reality, you are a biased participant.
Also... This is night 1 of me thinking about this.
There won't be a night 2.
This is night 80 for you.
Don't project.
So, the facts are somehow not facts because of the source they came from?
You're insane.
No. The facts are not facts because they're opinions. You present your "facts" through the lens of a neutral party, and you are clearly anything but neutral.
You make a claim hoping to get the hivemind on your side. You dump screenshots showing your embarrassing behavior and count on the fact that 60+ people won't even stop to verify or form their own opinion.
The sad part is that you're right. You can say anything and if it aligns with their preconceived narrative, they'll upvote and keep scrolling.
Which is exactly why you bury the lead, because if you said outright from the beginning that it was against you, well then people would be alerted to your inherent bias and actually form their own opinions.
The facts are presented as neutral because they exist and are neutral.
The moderator deleted messages to hide their negative response, including messages that broke no rules citing a non-existent rule for the reason. They found out that the mod logs are public after they were called out for misusing their moderator powers by deleting messages that broke no rules. Then immediately deleted their account and complained about it on mastodon, very clearly stating that their issue was that mod logs are public.
If you think that those facts somehow change because of the context, then that's on you. You're just flat wrong.
Also it's "bury the lede" 🙂
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lead_paragraph#Spelling
lol
You just can't help being pedantic. They're both correct.
The moderator got tired of this platform because it enables people who feel they were slighted to critique their every move. Mod logs don't have to be public. I think it's fine to disagree with that as a moderator. Mod abuse has been caught for decades without it, none of your argument hinged on the public mod logs other than the mastadon post where he shared annoyance that you were bothering him with them. Moderators are free to moderate with the tools and platform they want. He resigned, so fucking what.
He was snarky back at you. Big whoop.
This is an insular 1st world problem you are experiencing. Stemming from a bruised ego. This guy is not manipulative or toxic. You're overreacting.
Looking through your comments you do plenty of "dishing it out". But this is how you react when someone sarcastically replies to you then nukes the thread? You must have paper skin.