No Policy Change: In CNN Interview, Harris Refuses to Condition U.S. Military Support for Israel

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Kamala Harris Refuses to Condition U.S. Military Support for Israel
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You take the least worst option.

And I'm already voting for Harris. I still get to gripe about genocide, no matter how much it pisses off centrists to hear the blasphemy to the core of their worldview that is the merest suggestion that we shouldn't be supporting genocide.

Sure, and if you make people not vote for her, increasing Trumps chance to win, so be it. I suppose you're ok with that outcome.

I'd rather do whatever I can to get her in office then push for change. If US democracy falls apart with Trump then we have much larger problems than war in the middle east.

Sure, and if you make people not vote for her,

With my spoooooky mind control ray? You just want everyone who doesn't support genocide to shut up.

No, I'm acknowledging that how you discuss it can impact an election. Are you honestly so dense that you don't understand that?

And no, that's not what I want and it's not what I said, but please keep continuing this pattern of telling me how I feel and what I want. It seems you do have a mind reading ray, otherwise these claims would be extremely ignorant.

And no, that’s not what I want and it’s not what I said, but please keep continuing this pattern of telling me how I feel and what I want.

Then maybe give some indication that you're upset about the genocide and not just angry that people don't think it's a good idea for Democrats to support it.

I've said genocide is bad multiple times, what do you want a video of me crying? Jesus. I've said I'm against it, I've even said we need to push for change. You just don't want to hear that, I don't agree with you on every single point so you want to immediately other me and make assumptions about my stance.

You seem to be operating more off emotion than logic...

I’ve said genocide is bad multiple times,

And I've said I'm voting for Harris multiple times. If you don't care and keep ignoring that, why should I extend greater courtesy to you?

I’ve said I’m against it, I’ve even said we need to push for change.

While also saying that objections to genocide are making people vote for Trump.

You seem to be operating more off emotion than logic…

Imagine being emotional when your party is supporting genocide and is openly hostile to any attempt to stop or even slow it. This is monstrous and disgusting and unconscionably immoral. No US politician of any party has any business supporting this, let alone Democrats, the "moral high ground" party.

The lion's share of your vitriol is directed at the critics of genocide, not at its perpetrators or enablers.

And I've said I'm voting for Harris multiple times. If you don't care and keep ignoring that, why should I extend greater courtesy to you?

Because I've never said your not voting for her, simply that your comments could impact other voters. You've said I don't care multiple times when I've said the opposite. You seem more interested in a sick burn than being accurate.

While also saying that objections to genocide are making people vote for Trump.

Never said that once. I never said being against genocide means you're pro Trump. I've even said I'm against it. Holy crap you are dishonest.

Imagine being emotional when your party is supporting genocide and is openly hostile to any attempt to stop or even slow it. This is monstrous and disgusting and unconscionably immoral. No US politician of any party has any business supporting this, let alone Democrats, the "moral high ground" party.

Imagine trying to solve a problem with emotion not logic. That's exactly what you're trying to do.

The lion's share of your vitriol is directed at the critics of genocide, not at its perpetrators or enablers.

Wrong again. I'm trying to prevent genocide being the middle east, you seem to have blinders on.

Because I’ve never said your not voting for her, simply that your comments could impact other voters.

You said I was making them vote against her. Don't gaslight me.

Never said that once. I never said being against genocide means you’re pro Trump. I’ve even said I’m against it. Holy crap you are dishonest.

You said I was making them vote against her. Don't gaslight me.

Imagine trying to solve a problem with emotion not logic. That’s exactly what you’re trying to do.

Can I not gripe about genocide without an immediate logical solution?

I’m trying to prevent genocide being the middle east

By directing your anger at the critics of genocide and not at its perpetrators or enablers.