AOC is right: Jill Stein’s campaign is not serious

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Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez recently made headlines for calling perennial Green Party presidential candidate Jill Stein “predatory” and “not serious.” AOC is right.

Giving voters more choices is a good thing for democracy. But third-party politics isn’t performance art. It’s hard work — which Stein is not doing. As AOC observed: “[When] all you do is show up once every four years to speak to people who are justifiably pissed off, but you're just showing up once every four years to do that, you're not serious.”

To be clear: AOC was not critiquing third parties as a whole, or the idea that we need more choices in our democracy. In fact, AOC specifically cited the Working Families Party as an example of an effective third party. The organization I lead, MoveOn, supports their 365-day-a-year efforts to build power for a pro-voter, multi-party system. And I understand third parties’ power to activate voters hungry for alternatives: I myself volunteered for Ralph Nader in 2000, and that experience helped shape my lifelong commitment to people-first politics.


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It doesn't count because a 3rd party candidate will never win.

It can decide an election because it's removing a vote from the candidate closest to you who is actually electable.

Let's say you think taxation is theft, but you can't vote for Trump because "reasons". You vote Libertarian.

You've taken your vote from Trump and given it to a candidate with no chance.

Harris +50
Trump +49
Libertarian +1

Flip it around, you support Roe vs. Wade but you can't vote for Harris because "reasons". You vote Green.

You've taken your vote away from Harris and given it to a candidate with no chance.

Trump +50
Harris +49
Green +1

In neither case will it ACTUALLY be that close, but you get the idea.

Why do liberals assume they are entitled to leftist votes? The entire DNC prevented anti genocide speakers, yet platformed former Republicans, the Israeli family of a hostage, etc. it's clear the party is more invested in appealing to conservatives, so good luck 👍

Project 2025 thanks you for your support.

Don't worry. Dick Cheney, the architect of the invasion of Iraq, stepped up and took my vote for Kamala instead. Birds of a feather.

In a first past the post system, you either vote Democratic or you get the Republican. 3rd party is not an option.

Why do liberals assume they are entitled to leftist votes?

Your confusing that with the fact that an overlap of two circles is a venn diagram.