Why are folks so anti-capitalist?locked

o_o@programming.dev to Asklemmy@lemmy.ml – 452 points –

Hi all,

I'm seeing a lot of hate for capitalism here, and I'm wondering why that is and what the rationale behind it is. I'm pretty pro-capitalism myself, so I want to see the logic on the other side of the fence.

If this isn't the right forum for a political/economic discussion-- I'm happy to take this somewhere else.

Cheers!

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That is an extreme oversimplification of the issue. It would be way easier to support capitalism if the end result wasn't continued increasing concentration of wealth with a decreasing number of people. Maybe a better phrasing for the disdain people have is that we hate American capitalism. That encompasses not just the market, but the tax system and general financial landscape Americans have currently. It's the ability for companies to report record profits, announce layoffs, increase supply, and fight against wage increase and better benefits, all in the same breath, that creates the hatred people have right now.

Everything boils down to that, though. The only people you see actively going against the grain of capitalism are poor people, not rich people (you'll have some "socialists" like Bernie Sanders and AOC but c'mon, they're capitalists too, with their million dollar mansions and whatnot).

I see enough and know a few relatively "rich" people that go against American capitalism. They're obviously not Musk and Gates, but where they have no wants and would be able to weather most any hardship thrown their way, short of the catastrophic medical emergency (but again, that is only a function of American capitalism).

It's hard to point at a specific part of the American system and say "this is what is wrong". I think a lot of millennials are coming to the conclusion that the system is broken and is absolutely stacked against them. Student loans, medical debt, the housing market, stagnating wages amongst record profits across the board, bailouts for banks, Wall St corruption, billionaires paying $50 in taxes, continued failed DoD audits and lost money. There is plenty of money in the system to be "given away" when the receiving party is a corporation or hedge fund or defense contractor or bank.

It also doesn't help that anyone not retiring in the next 20 years is paying into Social Security under the assumption that it's lost money. The devil that is socialist programs is a hard sell when the population blaming you for the "collapse of American Capitalism" actively benefits from a program I'm paying into, but will likely never see benefit from. Universal Healthcare UBI, free school lunches etc seems way more palatable through that lens.

Fair, if you're taught that you're doomed to fail within a certain system, then naturally seeing other people succeed within that system will make one feel upset.