Kind of like saying the best birth control is abstinence. Technically true, but most people are going to have kids anyway. As long as we stay around replacement rate, which most western countries are at or below, having kids is a good thing so that society can keep going as people (ideally) retire.
So while we're all still here, how can humans lessen our emissions. That's the question.
I think that the issue is that everyone here is saying "everyone should do X", and that just doesn't make sense. Maybe everyone should just pick one thing on the chart and do that to improve the world as a whole? "People will have kids anyway, so that's not a good measure" could easily be reframed as "People will have meat anyway, so that's not a good measure".
We all have a sacrifice we're willing to make to be better, and we don't mind doing. Some people don't want to have kids, so they contribute that way. Some people don't want to eat meat anyway, so they contribute that way. If you want to do better, pick one thing and start doing it, even if it's not perfect.
Sure, but I don't think that a ribeye deserves the same untouchable nature as continuing the human species. Especially because if we get too many people choosing the child free route, suddenly your retirement plan will need to include a bullet. We don't have to all go full vegan, but would it be the end of the world to have a passing relationship with beans, or at least give the impossible whopper a try.
Kind of like saying the best birth control is abstinence. Technically true, but most people are going to have kids anyway. As long as we stay around replacement rate, which most western countries are at or below, having kids is a good thing so that society can keep going as people (ideally) retire. So while we're all still here, how can humans lessen our emissions. That's the question.
I think that the issue is that everyone here is saying "everyone should do X", and that just doesn't make sense. Maybe everyone should just pick one thing on the chart and do that to improve the world as a whole? "People will have kids anyway, so that's not a good measure" could easily be reframed as "People will have meat anyway, so that's not a good measure".
We all have a sacrifice we're willing to make to be better, and we don't mind doing. Some people don't want to have kids, so they contribute that way. Some people don't want to eat meat anyway, so they contribute that way. If you want to do better, pick one thing and start doing it, even if it's not perfect.
Sure, but I don't think that a ribeye deserves the same untouchable nature as continuing the human species. Especially because if we get too many people choosing the child free route, suddenly your retirement plan will need to include a bullet. We don't have to all go full vegan, but would it be the end of the world to have a passing relationship with beans, or at least give the impossible whopper a try.