got told to crosspost over here to reach more people:
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got told to crosspost over here to reach more people:
https://kbin.social/m/linuxquestions/p/4631784
I don't know if and how crossposting functions in kbin/lemmy, so hopefully it'll work that way
https://asus-linux.org/ seems to have some guides and tutorials.
Generally:
You're somewhat likely to find answers to single issues by googling. Unless the hardware is really new, someone else has faced that issue before. For lots of manufacturers and common hardware, there are dedicated guides, wikis and forums. Try to find those and you might get a step-by-step instruction to get it running. Otherwise you have to isolate single problems by some means to be able to tackle them. This is difficult, especially if there are multiple issues at the same time. But that's why I recommend focusing on one problem at a time and googling it with the most specific query you can come up with.
I'm sorry that your hardware is so difficult to get running. The acpi=off could be a hint. But you have to figure out what exactly is causing the issue. Turning all ACPI off isn't something you want. Maybe you could try installing it this way and see if it's just the installer. Maybe the installed distro (after an update) does better. And choose a recent one with a recent kernel, in case the problem got solved in a recent kernel version.
@rufus
thanks for taking the time. I already asked over at the asus-linux discord about the issue but got no reactions up until now.
did already, unfortunately not working
all installers (except nobara) do fail when trying to get the bootloader installed, since efibootmgr seems to be in need of the acpi options and I don't get it running with acpi option on.
that's exactly what I'm trying to do, first and most important (from my understanding) would be to get the OS booted from the USB with acpi on. I am going through google/DDG/qwant/whatever-search-engine to look it up and tried everything I was able to find in relation to my Hardware, but wasn't able to tackle the issue up until now, that's why I'm asking for help all over the reddits/lemmys/kbins/discords...
I can get Nobara - and only Nobara - installed so I can boot without USB, but there as well only with acpi off.
I tried with Fedora, Nobara, ubuntu LTS, pop!_os, GarudaOS, silverblue, Mint, with everyone having the issue not being able to boot without acpi=off and getting to a black screen and USBs (seem) powered off right after choosing the OS in grub.
appreciate your time replying, thank you.
Alright. You should also play with the options for the framebuffer, drm and video modes or forcefully enable some outputs. (I forgot how to do all of that.)
I'd skip the general acpi=off since that only causes more issues and isn't feasable in the long run anyways. You need to find the option that specifically fixes only the issue with that one component that isn't working correctly.
Another idea: Maybe you can find the error message. Can you perhaps login via SSH from another machine? This would allow you to run
dmesgwhile your screen is black. Maybe the error shows up in the dmesg kernel messages and you can take it from there. (Some installers even allow login from remote, that is a bit tricky but should be documented somewhere with the distro.)@rufus
I will try and report back if I can get the dmesg output. But since I guess that the USB gets cut off right before something happens I guess there simply isn‘t.
Will try with the installed Nobara and see, if dmesg catches anything up at all
But once you're trying to extract the log, you need to start it with acpi on. I mean we want to see that error happening.
Maybe paste the whole log somewhere on a pastebin service... If you manage to do it... Sometimes it's not an obvious error message. (...But something like the HDMI port being turned off...)
@rufus
I‘m afraid that it‘s where it will fail, cause I can‘t get it to work with acpi on
I thought of getting the „bad installed“ (acpi=off) OS, let it start with acpi on and afterwards grab the logs again with acpi off, but don‘t know if that will work…
I don't know what gets written to disk on which distro and which logs are just kept in memory.
dmesgalone just shows the current boot. I think if you're doing it that wayjournalctl --dmesg --boot=-1would be the correct command. That should do it.@rufus
Alright, will try later and report back the outcome / pastebin if I can grab it
Good luck! 😀
(FYI: You can skip mentioning names that way, a direct reply will show up on Lemmy. And if you want to mention someone, you'd need to add the instance name for it to have an effect. i.e. @rufus@discuss.tchncs.de )
Unfortunately nothing. Did install - reboot with acpi=off, reboot with no acpi parameter, reboot with acpi=off
Dmesg shows for the boot=-1 the first boot after install with acpi=off
No log for the try without acpi parameter 😢😢
Booting with acpi=off shows many logs with „IRQ not found for nvidia …“ (in the meaning, not wordly).
Edit: can‘t find an irq for your nvidia card
Edit 2: found a boot.log file. When trying to boot without acpi=off then no log is written, the bootprocess doesn‘t even start. From this point of view I‘d guess a Problem with UEFI. Still no idea what and where, but it‘s not graphics related if the bootprocess doesn‘t start at all… what d‘you think?
I think you can safely ignore all the errors that happen while acpi=off. That will switch all kinds of things around and the operating system can't set up the hardware properly without it, so it is to be expected that half the things crap out and throw error messages. Could be a red herring anyways.
Are you sure Secure Boot is switched to "Other OS"? (see https://www.asus.com/support/faq/1049829/ ) You could verify that with the 'msinfo32' in the guide.
And I'm really not sure if it's the UEFI. From your description it seems you're getting to the boot loader and something happens after... Maybe try not messing with the acpi, but removing the "quiet" and "splash" if they're there and adding "nomodeset" instead. After you hit Enter (or Ctrl-X with Grub) the early kernel messages should pop up. Something with loading and initrd or like that. What happens then? Does it load the kernel? Do additional log messages with a boot process appear? (If it's too fast, you can try a video recording of your screen with your phone.)
Yes, secure boot is set to Other OS - if set otherwise there’s a message after grub that secure boot is active, so pretty sure about that.
Unfortunately it doesn‘t show anything, even with no parameters at all. The only thing that shows up when changing the grub parameters is the „booting a command line“ message which stays there forever, nothing happens.
I‘ll record it with my phone when I get home later on today with the nomodeset parameter.
took the video
https://youtu.be/855QTzZlhWk
as you can see, absolutely nothing happens or shows up. (still uploading rn, should be available shortly)
Yeah thank you, I really hope we‘ll get some progress.
(Not doing it on purpose, it‘s just how kbin behaves 😅 really thinking about dropping it and give lemmy a try. Originally decided for kbin because I wanted both worlds but since the behaviour is so strange …yeah 😉)
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@anamethatisnt
Thanks for helping out, kbin kind of doesn‘t have the option but the functionality 🤷🏻♂️
Unfortunately i can't help you, but just to be sure, have you downloaded the
-nvidiaversion of the ISO? In case, check it outAlso try not to daily run with
acpi=off, especially on a laptop, as it won't be very power efficient@orsetto
it's not a laptop, it's a desktop.
Yes, I did download the -nvidia versions, didn't do the trick and daily run it with acpi=off is no option since many things don't work anyways with that setting
Try this ? https://old.reddit.com/r/archlinux/comments/vnaxrq/nvidia_geforce_rtx_3070_on_arch_linux/ie934i5/
GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="loglevel=3 quiet nouveau.modeset=0 ibt=off"@lemmyreader
tried just right now. I get „booting a command list“ and nothing more, stays like that and USB Devices seem to be off.
Okay, too bad, thanks for trying. Nvidia apparently is a pain with Linux currently. Years ago it was the opposite, people were told to go for Nvidia.
With Ventoy https://www.ventoy.net/en/index.html you can put lots of Linux iso images on one usb stick which can save you some time. For example try OpenSuse https://en.opensuse.org/SDB:NVIDIA_drivers
@lemmyreader
Thank you for the suggestion, I really do appreciate anyone who could have a clue what could go wrong and takes the time trying to help me out.
Yeah, Ventoy is the latest I had to burn the ISOs on the USB and stayed with it since :)
Tried
nvidia-drm.modeset=1as kernel parameter already ?:)
I tried so many parameter, that i can‘t remember anymore everyone ^^ but tried just now, unfortunately no change, same behavior
You could try this The OP installed the drivers from an older iso and then upgraded. Manjaro Linux is not very much liked by many but you could give it a try. If it works you can go for plain Arch or EndeavourOS. From what I found the closed source Nvidia driver exist since 2022 so don't use an iso that is too old :-)
ok took me 3 days to test, apologies :D
but unfortunately, no, doesn't work. Even the "old" iso stucks at the exact same position with the exact same behavior :(
Will have look into it and try it out, but will need some time. Will defo reply back once tested 👍🏻 thank you!
👍
I have a g15 from the same year (3060) asus linux website is the way,they have a discord too
yeah ... as you can see in one of my other comments, I already joined the asus-linux discord and asked the "same" question (really, nearly with the exact same words...) and got , unfortunately, absolutely no reaction to it (besides on comment about "you need to disable the nouveau driver")...
I will try to help you troubleahoot it when I am free
appreciate it, thank you
what is ur discord, I am free now
Lots of people to the time to reply here and at kbin.
It probably will not hurt to also ask on https://superuser.com/ https://stackexchange.com/ and Reddit linuxquestions or another appropriate subreddit. To me it seems like Discord is similar like IRC : questions will get snowed under after others write newer things and your reading audience is likely decreasing.
And a question : What are your plans with Linux on your desktop ?
If you are interested in learning more Linux then a refurbished laptop is a good start to run Linux natively without a dual boot.
Don‘t get me wrong, I‘m not complaining at all, in contrary, I am enormous grateful for any help I get.
I posted alread in reddit as well - subreddits r/Nobara, r/linux4noobs and r/linuxquestions
Asus-Linux has a thready-like area in their discord „general-issues“, where I made the thread…
At first it is to learn how everything behaves, test my use-cases to see, if linux could become an all-dayer for me - that would be the main goal - until then the dual-boot to have a fallback option.
Cool. 👍
In that case, VirtualBox and other emulators could be useful to look into. And WSL may be limited (I've read) but also useful. Never tried WSL but a friend of mine is happy with it.
yeah, already played around with VirtualBox and WSL, but there are use-cases (e.g. in gaming) where just an emulation can't really show what's possible and what not, that's why I would love to have the dualboot, so I can reliably test everything without any excuses like "runs probably bad because of emulation"