Frato

@Frato@lemmy.ml
3 Post – 25 Comments
Joined 11 months ago

Let's cooperate!

Sure, systemd does what it is supposed to do. It is NOT bad design from the admins perspective, but from a os-architecture perspective. It is a huge single binary with a huge number of 0-day exploits (you can check those). The scale of the projects causes many possible exploits. A set of small programs, which do only one thing, is easier to maintain (^= decentralization of os-design)

lynx (when possible), fff, cmus, mutt, latex, core-utils, mupdf (vi like keybindings), sxiv, mpv (no-gui)

i only use gui programs if no cli option exists: js-browser, gimp

classy ๐Ÿ™‚

I think it is a very good thing to have TWO options when choosing a FSF conform distro. Yes, for a laptop linux may be the more versatile option (for now...) but on a server a BSD-distro will be pure gold.

p.s. i have no problems using bsd on a laptop right now - it's a very clean and well made system and the hardware support is sufficient.

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Hey, i wanted to ask that!

... and that is why the average user stays an average user.

  1. There is not a scientific proof YET, but i think it can be done: for that we would need to program the "corner-stone", which would be the *nix-program #1 - something that could show practically what the pioneers of the *nix system envisioned. This practical proof is possible, if we deep dive into the POSIX definition to analyze for what it was made.

  2. unix is a trademark, but what counts is the architectural vision behind it (D. Richie&co.) I think it would be better to avoid the tradmarked word (sry for using it) - *nix may be a proper word (although it implies that it is a whole group)

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The more you learn about the original vision,. .. it is kind of terrifingly brilliant and powerful. The architects knew exactly what they were doing. That's why in the late 70's they tried the keep it from the public! (you can send thx to rms - he opened it up for us)

Hyperbola has the best vision for a clean and libre general-OS.

Yes, they very strict about the interpretation of "libre", but that makes the vision pure and crystal clear.

The community-manager (forum: throgh) is very competent, just register in the forums and post smt.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unix_philosophy

"...This style was based on the use of tools: using programs separately or in combination to get a job done, rather than doing it by hand, by monolithic self-sufficient subsystems, or by special-purpose, one-time programs."

made me smile, have an upvote ๐Ÿ˜‰

i think the question is valid: it seems strange first, but the cli-env. is so MUCH MORE POWERFUL.

some more tips:

ยท use bash key bindings and bind them to smt. like:

vim $(find ~/my-project | fzf)

ยท dmenu with a wrapper that sources an alias-file

BSD based systems (with the according userland) have a very clean and more minimalistic code base. In the last years Gnu/Linux systems drifted away from the ideals of the unix-style (e.g. systemd...). For an end-user-system this may be ok, but the general design of the bsd-systems is better imho.

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That is true. There are linux distros around with musl/busybox (alpine) and some distros without systemd. But i would really appreciate a fsf-conform distro with a fsf-conform BSD-kernel and the bsd userland - it's just a nice addition to the existing oss-os world. It is not about "this OR that" - why not have both?

p.s. both runit and openrc are close enough to the unix philosophy

p.s.s. yes, macos derived from openBSD and is using a sytemd-like init, but - as said - macos mainly targets end-user system... it's o'right for that - i think power users prefer os-designs closer to the unix philosophy.

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nevermind, parabola is a great distro (with openrc version), but hyperbola will not draw dev-power from pb, because it will be a completly own breed. Yes the existing BSD's are great, but none of them are fsf conform.

The effort of the hb-bsd will produce OSS that can synergize with all the projects you named.

If you're into kernel hacking, you may consider supporting the HyperbolaBSD project, which seems much more promising than hurd.

or: cp my.iso /dev/sdaX

(much faster than dd)

why not curl? it also supports gopher ๐Ÿ˜‰

It's bad design and therfore a wrong standard. Also, it's a security desaster.

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the *nix system up to the shell enviroment needs to be clean, libre and true to the vision - everything beyond may be. .. whatever...

I think the init system matters A LOT! Systemd is anti-unix-style and making it a "new default" and forcing it, by depending on it, is breaking the best os-design there is: the unix-like system. (who changes it will be forced to reinvent it...better stay close to the original vision in the first place)

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