Hawne

@Hawne@kbin.social
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Spez just got muskified.
He was thinking (or more likely, his hubris was babbling): "If Elon can do it, I can do it!" without realizing that reddit is the exact opposite of twitter.

Meanwwhile in the real world, twitter's value is all about its users (as in, empty but famous shells making some noise) while reddit's value is in the content its users bring. On reddit the influence isn't the person but what they bring along, and if they stop bringing it along then reddit's just a second-hand internet time machine.

Not even talking about users who (like me) have deleted their "lifetime" contribution while keeping their account alive (in order not to find it restored with a dummy handle). Reddit is getting the Thanos treatment, bit by bit.

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But what Reddit is putting a price on is access to content generated by its users, not Reddit itself.

Spot on. Spez is short-sighted thinking he can "musk out" of this situation, as reddit is no twitter.

Twitter's value is on its users: often empty but famous shells moving hot air from tweet to tweet. Reddit's value was in the content we brought but as soon as we stop feeding the beast it's just a glorified wayback machine. That is, if we do not delete our past contributions.

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FYI all of these solutions stop working in 10 days 🤣

Wrong. Most solutions (see below) linked here are either proxies or scrubbers-archivers, which mean they are using HTTPS requests to access a web page.
If such solutions really stopped working on July 1st then you wouldn't be able to access reddit with your browser.

Which could be an interesting side effect.

(About teddit and libreddit: those two are "portmanteau" using varying techniques to obfuscate reddit crap. Teddit is indeed using some "unofficial" API so it may or may not work, and apparently libreddit is proxying requests so it should probably work. It will also depend on their .json use as it is also covered by the new terms.)

Massive indeed, dansup is super-competent. I love the way this is all going.

Devs will have some hard weeks (probably months) facing the new challenges that come with the exodus. Not even mentioning all the work needed to counteract eventual (probable) malevolent subterfuges such as these bot swarms.
I'll make sure to buy them some coffee. Jugs of.

At least it makes some noise for "normie users" that could have looked the other way and kept business as usual despite stickied posts ("Oh no more technical protest crap, just let me see more cats videos!"). This (more or less) indirect visibility can pique such users' interest and lead them to assess the situation differently and eventually follow the rabbit further down.

It also acts as a ZAD (Zone to Defend) after the initial blackout protests.

Amen to that!

My people are going to learn the principles of democracy, the dictates of truth and the teachings of science. Superstition must go.

Mustafa Kemal Ataturk

I cannot exclude the possibility that the recent increase in bot accounts on some instances is somewhat linked to such already engaged subterfuges. I mean, the time frame is way too coincidental.

Reddit does not really have a reputation of fair-play. As you have deleted your account without deleting your data you might find it restored with a dummy handle "for consistency".

My advice to anyone: if you want to take your data back from reddit you should first edit your posts (to some "lorem ipsum suck fpez" gibberish) then delete them using tools like power delete suite or shreddit.

Then you should keep your account alive and regularly pay reddit a visit just to see if its content hasn't been restored. If you're in a country under GDPR regulation you can also ask for a GDPR archive of your data that should cover whatever they have on you including posts and comment. This is a good way of verifying what you deleted was actually deleted and not just "marked as" and yet available.

I have left reddit. As in, I do not engage further than discussing migration issues. But I keep an eye on my account and will do so until I'm sure it's been thoroughly cleaned up. Account deletion is not yet in order, it might be before they go public because I also want them to fall hard from that.

Too late for me I guess, I've already deleted all of my user content in order to "deflate" reddit.

But I still have fingers and a few neurons connecting so, onward to new content!

Reddit posts on lemmy via RSS, multiple clients blooming, nodes welcoming the exodus, the fediverse is thriving. Might be the one thing we can show spez some gratitude for!

A hell of a job. I took the lazy way out and just deleted all of my contributions, and will be GDPRing whatever's left or restored in a while. New platform, new content, same mind and fingers.

I'm not sure this data's worth a lot though, as many users (likely most of them) are using anon or throwaway accounts with none to little link to the rest of their activity. Sure it can be processed for statistics but I don't think there's a lot to extract further. Reddit is no facebook where the average joe has its "average joe" account, and I don't think signing up with a google/apple/whatever account is the most common practice on reddit (or at least with your real, non-portmanteau anon account).

As for archived posts and comments they're already publicly available on archive sites. Why would anyone buy them?

If I read correctly their fine print they have 45 + 45 days to respond. Rest assured they'll take their time.

On the other hand I don't think you're the only one requesting either deletion or a GDPR archive right now so summer break might be slightly postponed or crunched for some people up there. Just a wild guess but still.

58 with a similar background (except that I'm a man) and I have no intention to stop.

I'm essentially a PC gamer but had a few game consoles too (until Dreamcast), which I ditched as soon as PCs were able to provide a decent platform for modern gaming. I'm a modder and occasionally a tweaker so I prefer having total control over my gaming environment than being restricted by a closed system console.

I love many game genres, my favorites being immersive open worlds and strategic action and stealth games (à la Ghost Recon Wildlands or Mass Effect) but I don't limit myself to those. Each genre brings its own amusement and interest, either honing your reflexes or challenging your cooperation skills or your memory.

And above all, gaming is fun!

There is no age cut off for enjoying challenging both your mind and reflexes, nor to have fun. And imho enjoying gaming at our ages is one of the many symptoms of still being a young soul.

How will these tools (power delete, shreddit, redact.dev etc) behave after July 1st? Will users still be able to nuke their content or do they need to hurry tfu before the fatidic date?

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Thank you! I'm not sure it'll be the same for shreddit as it must be registered as a "script" application on reddit in order to work so I'm guessing it's using API.

Like many before me said, explore other interests. Then when you get back to gaming try moving out of your comfort zone. If roaming on open worlds has been your thing for years try switching to a neighboring genre such as battle royale or coop monster bashing for instance, or even try switching to a totally different genre like puzzles or fps. Challenge yourself to new habits and gameplays, and do not hesitate moving on to another genre if it's just not your thing.

“This is the worst kind of discrimination there is: the kind against me!” - Bender Bending Rodríguez

If you can't stand a side remark and a bit of rabbithole chasing maybe you'd be more comfortable with something more rigid than the fediverse, unless you take it as a country club. And oh, a couple users frowned upon my comment henceforth you are so right and I am so doomed.
Sigh...

There's something I find quite concerning: on a recent poll on r/redditalternatives the "best" alternative by a large amount is squabbles.io, then beehaw, fediverse "regular" instances (kbin, lemmy) only coming in 3rd and 4th position.

If that poll really reflects the opinion of the average reddit Joe (I tend to take external polls with a grain of salt as they can easily be brigaded), not only people are voting en masse for a centralized solution - again, but also they're favoring the maverick fediverse instance over proper ones.

Even more concerning, this snippet taken from squabbles.io's privacy policy:

Disclosure of Information
We may share your personal information in the following circumstances:

With your consent or as otherwise necessary to provide our services
With trusted third-party service providers who assist us in operating our website and services
When required by law, or in response to a valid legal request
In connection with a merger, acquisition, or sale of assets, in which case your information may be transferred to the acquiring entity

To put it bluntly: brace yourselves, we will sell your data (and likely the company) as soon as we get enough dough from it.

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I like the way you're thinking, I certainly lack a bit of perspective after all that pessimistic-driving reddit ruckus. Gotta shed those old habits and reflexes.

Still, the worrying proportion of users ready to renew the "feed the beast" experience raises some concern. Rejoining @timewarp here, we have to inform people and spread the good news.

Now I sure know what the "F." stands for.

Well she's definitely not a committee.

I did it on purpose. This post will draw attention to people both beehaw-savvy and beehaw-enthusiasts enough to appreciate the error page, which place could be better actually to educate my prejudice?

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Call me stubborn if you must but as long as beehaw is playing the maverick part and not willing to be a full and compliant part of the fediverse I just won't raise an eyebrow. Well, not right now at least.

It's not that I'm super-informed and henceforth condemning beehaw or whatever, I just feel like transitioning from bigbroreddit to the fediverse is enough change without betting on the outsider that's whistling their own tune already.

If someone can educate me bringing some food for thought about beehaw I am willing to listen and eventually learn.

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