JeffCraig

Yeah moving to a federation alternative seems like it would be extremely welcomed in that type of community. They would have a lot more freedom in posting whatever content they wanted without being bothered by the reddit admins.

Pirates are notoriously good at finding the content they are looking for, so a "hidden" community on Lemmy would still thrive.

It's easy to missjudge how much of our society are just mindless drones.

The beauty of the fediverse is that the last panel can't happen.

We control our own instances. There's no world where admins wouldn't defederate from any Facebook attempt to barge in.

Maybe a few larger instances sell out, but users hold the power here now. If an admin betrays our trust, we'll just make a new instance.

There's a 90% probability that Threads takes over from the failing Twitter. Nothing will change. No one will learn anything. More of everyone's data will be stollen.

Yeah I'm having a hard time understanding this entire thread. Like... Is everyone here completely baked?

We touch our belts and then we wash our hands. Just like we touch our dicks AND THEN WE WASH OUR HANDS.

y'all are acting like I should be washing my dick too.

Crypto? no. NFTs? yeah pretty much.

Bored Apes have dropped around 3/4 of their value over the past year. They're still worth over $60,000, but anyone that bought them, or any other NFT, over the past year has taken a massive hit.

The real question is whether NFT prices will cycle with bitcoin when crypto prices spike back up or not. Crypto has always had crazy peaks and dumps, and that pattern will probably continue, but I think NFTs are just going to go to zero. There's no real reason for crypto, so speculating on a thing that has no value that's based on a thing that has no value is real dumb.

I posed this question to the admins a while back. How does the community officially suggest instances to defederate. How do we vote on those choices? Where is the process?

This was during the lemmy.online thing, where that instance (which no longer exists) created a bot to basic just crawl reddit and duplicate posts to their instance. I immediately told the instance admin that they should stop and I asked the admins where the process was to submit a de-federation request.

All I got was a bunch of BS from users about how de-federation should be something we don't take lightly, blah blah blah, but all I was asking was where the process is. How are we even partaking in a system that's so ripe for admin abuse?

The lemmy.world admins aren't malicious... they're just in over their heads. They've struggled with the technical side of running the service and they haven't built out some of the social tools that an instance this side needs. Hopefully they mature quickly.

Not at the moment.

There's an issue for it on GitHub, but it's unlikely to be implemented: https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/2397

I still have a 8700K and haven't really had the need to upgrade in a while. I'll never buy a processor with something like this in it. If Microsoft forces it in new CPUs, I'm pretty sure I can make it the rest of my life with current hardware.

I think there's probably a reasonable explanation for this. The entire idea of Mastodon was built around getting away from companies like Meta. The admins arent going to just do a 180 on that.

It's more likely that Meta wants to do a similar thing as Truth Social and they are doing some consultation work. It would be good money and I don't blame them for taking it.

Ha yes.

I may or may not have kids, but this video will stick in my mind forever. If I do, my focus will be on creating that community to surround my kids with people that they can look up to for good role models and hope for the best :D

Wikipedia is a different concept though.

This is social media. Wiki is information. I come here to share thoughts, but I only go to wiki to find data.

Almost everyone on social media posts random bullshit. That's why there are tons and tons of comments on every post.

Things like reddit and Lemmy probably have at least 50% participation from their daily active users.

Yeah this is a good point.

It took me months to actually start using Lemmy and Mastodon. I would consider myself a tech savvy person and it still took a while getting used too. I think there need to be better tutorials linked on the sign-up pages that help people understand the basic concepts. That would help drive true user acquisition.

Just look at the ratio on this post for a gold confirmation of those numbers. 300+ comments and 1400+ upvotes. That a decent interaction ratio.

Even just upvoting is still participation as well. Wiki is different.

Plus, overall reddit interaction has barely gone down. Daily visits went from 55 million to 52. That's a drop in the bucket.

One thing I learned a long time ago is that internet people just don't give a shit about doing what is right, only doing what is easy.

So yes, spreading news about Lemmy is more important than trying to take down reddit by not posting.

There was a video about this posted a bit ago. The speaker said basicly this same thing. After the age of 7, the environment that your kid is placed into, and the other people they are around, has for more influence on them that the parents have.

You do your best for the first 7 years, and then you do your best to find the right environment for them for the rest of their lives.

I have supported Discord with a nitro subscription for as long as I've had an account. It's a terrific program and there's no reason to expect premium features for nothing in return. The mentality that everything should be free is why we have so many fucking ad driven online business models and I'm over it. I pay for what I use if it's a good service.

If you read the articles closely, the banging stopped a long time ago. They had 40hrs of oxygen, max, left on Tuesday, so time is running short.

Supposedly a Navy drone sub has arrived in Newfoundland that is capable of lifting the Titan. But they're really running down to the wire and they still have to locate the sub and get the drone out to the location.

That's what I'm more upset about.

Who gives a shit about a couple of billionaires. Why does this have to be a world-wide news story? Why don't we care about the 100s of refugees that die all the time in maritime accidents and why are those things dominating the news?

Time and time again we give the rich people all of our attention. Fuck that. We shouldn't be letting the media direct our attention like this.

And some massive lawsuits to handle.

I can here to say this.

Chicken is all of these things. I food prep chicken dishes because I need the right amount of protein. It's delicious and it's one of the cheapest types of meat.

The thing with the Fediverse is that things like this aren't really possible. The creators of Lemmy are pretty anti-capitalist, so the source-code won't ever support ads.

An instance admin could try to modify it to incude Ad Sense, but the users would just reject that instance and move to a free one.

I personally wouldn't mind premium features, like animated emotes and stuff for people that pay for monthly subscriptions, but again, things like that don't work in the fediverse because they won't be supported on every instance.

Maybe there will be some creative solutions that get made, but it's highly unlikely due to how things are setup.

I couldn't have said it better.

I haven't seen that much of a problem on Lemmy.ml, so I think you really have to dig down into it to find the dirt. I think some people have a problem with the admins political views, so they try to smear them any chance they can. But those same admin made lemmygrad as a place to kinda keep all that stuff separate from the main instance.

Sure, it seeps over sometimes, but the bulk of the content on lemmy.ml is just standard shit. Reddit was no different. Most subreddits were normal and there were a few ones that were full of imbalanced idiots. That didn't make people leave the site completely. We just didn't sub to the subreddits we didn't like. In a similar vein, just block the communities here that you don't want to see.

As far as the "too many communities" discussion goes... we're never going to win that battle. The majority of people out there aren't willing to make the change to the fediverse because of this one issue. Most likely a true Reddit alternative will be made and most normies will move there in time.

It's great that Lemmy has gained some popularity, but there are too many issues here for it ever to become as big as something like Reddit.

I've been ready to leave Reddit for a long time. I'm not angry at Reddit... It's more just continued disappointed. The site was built off of effort from the communities but the corporation won't listen to us for guidance and changes.

The only thing I worry about is that most people won't even hear of alternatives like Lemmy and that will impact adoption. I fear that only the degenerates and extremests will be the ones to make the changes. I hope that isn't how it plays out.

The difference between .17 and .18 is pretty substantial. Lemmy.world neglected to update to .18 because captcha support was not working for new account signups, so they waited for v0.18.1

https://join-lemmy.org/news/2023-06-23_-_Lemmy_Release_v0.18.0

There should be substantial performance improvements because it moves Lemmy from using websocket to HTTP API.

There are lots of other fixes and things, but that is the most substantial change.

No, there's no indication that Meta cares about the Fediverse.

This is all just a bunch of hype. Yes, of course we'll defederate if they try. I think that's fairly obvious.

Obviously Reddit is going to retain strong control over the default subs. Personally I miss all the NSFW content on the frontpage, but when I saw all these subs making a statement with it, I knew immediately that it wouldn't end well for them.

It was a good protest, but anyone surprised that Reddit removed those mods is naive.

Uh, we need participation from everyone in order for the fediverse to have legitimacy. We unfortunately need those cringe users if we want large scale adoption. Without it everything stays small scale, developers aren't attracted to the concept and people leave for functioning alternatives.